Mythic Dungeon Tools Addon now behind paywall

I mean, it’s fire, his GM posted that he was going through some things and they were going to try and help him any way they could.

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There is nothing they can do, as the addon is still free just the extra data isn’t. That isn’t against the rules. If you really want to teach him a lesson, support someone who is making a new version that will include the data for free.

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It literally is:

  1. Add-ons must be free of charge.
    All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create “premium” versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.

Considering that what you’d be paying for was the only reason people used the addon, I’m not sure how it can be argued that this isn’t at least a “premium” version.

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Also a donation button that que had and this pay for extra features are 2 different things. Donations is, If your feeling generous, while method is literally charging you for a feature of the add on. Against tos or eula or whatever

I guess that depends upon if Blizzard considers the data part of the addon. You am betting nothing about the addon actually changes between the standard and premium, just the premium comes with some kind of dat file to load the mob info.

Can you do that? Mob data is data that belongs to Blizzard. Selling that data in any way seems like taking Blizzard’s content, and then profiting from it.

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By this I mean that location information is encoded in Blizzard’s files. If you blackbox the location data, you’re not replicating a system, but discovering source information directly. When doing software development and copying something from another developer, you don’t get into trouble for replicating a system, so long as you don’t touch the source or replicate the source. The location data would be replicating the data itself, and it’s impossible to tell if you read the data directly, or blackboxed it. You can get into more than a TOS violation for doing that.

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That data was already included in the addon prior to his recent update. He removed it, in order to put it behind a paywall. And it was the only reason the addon worked. Without it, you can’t plan routes since no mobs are shown on the map, thus you can’t see the %forces count for the packs you’ve chosen.

Which was why I was initially confused when I heard about this, because I still had the older version installed that contained that functionality.

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Always wondered how TSM got away with their sub fee.

I don’t know the specifics of that. But as long as they keep their fees related to their own website, they’re probably safe.

Doesn’t exist anymore now it’s just the EULA.

There is a desktop app and you only get access to reginal market values for free. You have to pay for server market data.

/shrug

Unless you can’t access that data in-game without paying for it, it’s probably not an issue. Or it would be a grey area at worst, depending on whatever else the addon is used for.

Those are guidelines as stated in what you linked

"Blizzard Entertainment has formalized design and distribution guidelines for add-ons. These guidelines have been put in place to ensure the integrity of World of Warcraft… "

They are guidelines Blizzard would like Addon authors to follow. As such they are not in game policies as it’s impossible to write an addon in game. Test sure. Write text files out containing Lua files and create the folder structure necessary for an addon ? Nope addons are all sandboxed.

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No it isn’t.

ToS , ToU , EULA … these are all user agreements. We sign them in order to play. They are legal contracts that set out what we license we players have access to , what we can and can’t do , what Blizzard provides for us , what Blizzard owns and how we arbitrate disputes amongst other things.

The UI policy everyone keeps quoting everywhere on the internet ? Is between the addon author and Blizzard and , as the document states is guidelines. It contains none of the language typical to a user agreement and isn’t linked to or referred to in Blizzard’s legal section of their website.

Charging for addons isn’t contained anywhere in the EULA.

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I have no idea what this addon does and did not even know it existed. I am now aware that addons can cause drama.

You get data for your servers without paying, you just pay for more than 2 updates per day and some other random crap that has nothing to do with the in game addon.

Someone literally posted the policy where add ons must be free with no paywall premium versions.

Just because you ignore it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

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Or caring enough to use this addon in the first place.

Why wouldn’t you? Route planning is a major part of timing M+. Pulling extra, or even worse, not pulling enough, are major time wasters.

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Again these are guidelines as mentioned in the policy itself.

And people are ignoring the fact that the UI policy isn’t a user agreement. It’s guidelines as clearly stated in the policy itself.

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