Mythic+ has never been required for raiding
Uhh yes it is.
What makes you think that?
Because a lot of the M+ that happened in the RWF happened off-broadcast, or they’re only talking about heroic/normal.
Yup, i love raiding, but in order to raid you have to M+ as raid loot is so limited. Imagine if M+ players could only get 1-2 pieces a week regardless of how many keys they run?
I would enjoy watching that tbh
Why not?
There’s many pve specs where vers is a top stat
Better yet, stop segregating pvp gear from regular gear.
Stop the lower ilvl in pve and warp boosted for pvp.
Use the same 1,000 cltypes of currency mechanic we have for pve to increase you pvp gear, while allowing us to choose what stats we want on out gear as we equip it
Once stars are chosen you cannot change them
1 to 2 a week?
That’s a generous estimate.
In mplus, you rarely if ever get a drop just like raids.
LOL not even close to being true. try running more than 4 keys
You typically get 1 piece on average every 3 dungeons. Not exact, but its probability. You have 2 pieces per dungeon split among 5 people and is repeatable.
Raid is more like 5 pieces split among 25 people and is not repeatable xD
Not the same
M+ players who push the cutting edge of the game will raid for the specific items they need for m+ (usually trinkets).
anyone who is doing truly endgame content (raiding heroic and above, M+ 10 and above, hardcore pvp) will play all of the content to get the items they need. the will play some content because they have to so they can push the content they want to play.
whether anyone complains about it or when they choose to do so is hardly the measure of the type content they play.
there have been plenty of times when raiders were “forced” to PVP to get certain types of gear to use in raids. resilience was a thing (useful for tanks particularly) and/or people were missing gear slots and they earned resources to buy the pvp gear to fill in the blanks.
when you were trying to gear up then, you had raid lockouts that limited gear progression but you could more or less pvp to your heart’s content and keep earning gear.
There was always the weekly or seasonal conquest cap though. M+ is really the only form of progression gear the game’s ever really had that’s infinite.
But here’s the thing: you don’t need to for heroic raid or +12s.
The back half of mythic it matters, as does it matter the people doing world first keys (at most, missing the raid trinket lowers your theoretical max by 1 key level).
So it doesn’t matter to most of the M+ers who chose to whine, since they won’t get close to even a +20 (when, by the end of the season with turbo boost, at most it’ll cap them at 22 instead of 23).
They could create a limited list of seasonal loot drops and have it drop in both Raid and M+. They could then put a limit on drops per character per week.
I am not advocating for this in the slightest. It would suck.
yes and that is the whole freaking point. if you are pushing truly end game content, you will run what you need to run. full stop. end of argument.
complain before or after. who cares?
for absolutely anyone else, you play what you want.
but, really, stop pretending that being “forced” to play content you otherwise don’t like playing in order to gear up for what you want to play is somehow new. it just isn’t
I’ve never been part of a raid group that requires you to do M+.
This season M+ is even more pointless, since so much of the BiS comes from the raid. Boots, a ring, and weapon/trinket combo. A healing trinket that is literally built around M+ (the Silk from Loom, which puts a shield on 4 party members and you) is from the raid. Weird number for a raid trinket huh, unless you’re running 10 people.
HEY GENIUS
you have you looked at my character profile?
dont spout off nonsense that you you clearly have no clue about.
I run lots of keys anf maybe get 1 piece of gear thats usable a week, and thats a big maybe.
Nope. Wish I had earlier lol
39 kills and no salad king or aotc?
Below average parses in raid and mplus.
Who is it that doesnt have a clue? I stopped trying to log shame people but when you come with an attitude like that you may want to back it up.
85 keys and you get one piece a week?
X to doubt
Sure, only one piece if you ignore all the other pieces that weren’t the exact one OP wanted.
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I mean even with just vault thats one piece a week.
I have like half of his mplus runs and I have gotten plenty of gear I can and cant use not including vault lol
Except for 2 items, everything he’s wearing has the mythic+ or crafted tag.
So I’d say he’s gotten M+ gear.
But but but but
Bla bla bla
Posting on another alt complaining about content you don’t do, needed for content you don’t do…
Can’t wait till next week when I see the same thread about “decoupling”
They’re not gonna change the game just because one bad player can’t handle some zerg bosses in a raid