For the beginning of a new arc of expansions, I wasn’t expecting the story to still be this weak.
Especially when they’ve said they’ve supposedly invested more into it after Shadowlands.
I enjoy seeing Nerubians again and whatnot, Earthen are alright, Kobolds are cool.
But you know what isn’t cool? The campaign outside of the side quests, lol. The Earthen story “conclusion” was pretty bad, imo.
I actually like the side quests more.
I think you can take anything out of perspective and paint it in such a light to turn them into a supervillain if you’re good at it.
Then he should have known better.
As I heard someone say recently, “there are more murals of black people drawn by white in Portland than actual black people”. CA folk are just in their own bubble man. And they think the same about the rest of the world.
But youre never gonna win anyone over on that topic. And theres nothing wrong with the art itself. It just is what it is. Itll take a few more Ghostbuster remakes before they get it.
You folks read too deeply in to stuff. Just enjoy the parts of it that you enjoy, not everything has to cater to your subjective needs and desires in life.
That’s true I won’t win over everyone no matter what I say, because some people just fundamentally disagree. But it is important to voice that you disagree with things particularly when the motivations are corrosive, because it convinces some people on the edges, and gives confidence to other people to disagree with things they find disagreeable. I think many people disagree with the direction its going and the insertion of real-world politics, but they aren’t prepared to be falsely called a racist or argue against it for registering their disapproval.
Nor are we going to be able to use logic like saying hundreds of thousands of white men fought in the union and died to help free the slaves during a bloody civil war. It doesn’t support the narrative I guess that I’m not always the bad guy. I’m only the bad guy on Mondays I take the rest of the week off people 
Bro i cant read minds. It spans anywhere from trolling to emotional instability. The moment you said too many female leaders, your whole review turned into just that and it was over for any valueable conversation.
This is just politics right now. Mention anything political and people foam at the mouth.
All pretty reasonable points…of course it’s been hidden. It’s the same for all corps… DEI. Quality is GONE! in everything. It’s like the ‘no child left behind’ education only means they will pull back or whack a mole anything that sticks it’s heads up ‘higher’ than the lowest level of ‘equity’.
Shadow dance on assassination was horrible and this is coming from a 12 year rogue main
Watching this goalpost move in real time
I like the lipstick emoji on the post. I wonder what their favorite color is.
Even if it wasnt forced diversity and girlboss vibes, i guarantee you the story would still be mid. Theres a lack of creativity that the art team cant make up for. Thats why the diversity stuff doesnt bother me. Because there is a deeper problem with the story writers thinking this ought to be a story for 7 year olds.
Stop cherrypicking my quotes into strawman fallacy.
I have no problem with female characters.
The last ones I liked the most were Queen Neferess and Vyranoth, who is one of the few characters from Dragonflight that I thought was well done.
My problem is related to quantity.
If I went to Darnassus and there were 9 male druids and 1 female character I would also be complaining.
Does it make my point clear or you are still keep LYING?
I think you missed the whole point of the post.
Female player here, and what I liked about this is that unlike this assertion:
What I loved about Faerin is that she DOESN’T nag Anduin or tell him that he’s healing incorrectly. She just goes through it demonstrating by quiet example.
As a military spouse who has spent decades observing how military structure works, having Faerin openly and publicly argue with the general was…bad, lazy, horrendous writing, but overall her character is fantastic. I love her addition to the story.
Most of the female characters in this game (Tyrande, Alleria, Sylvanas, Jaina, and even Lilian Voss on occasion), just go out and do things on the spur of crazy emotional highs. As a woman, I find that so insulting. Even Sylvanas, who they were trying to sell to us as a calculating mastermind, blew up the world because she had some bad fee-fees.
I keep calling it “Season 8 Khaleesi crazy.” It’s all men seem to know how to write for female characters, and I have to ask, “What kind of women are you dating and where are you finding all these lunatic harpies?” It’s anime levels of melodrama.
Not with Faerin. She’s been through trauma and she has suffered tremendous loss, just like Anduin. She’s been orphaned like him. She’s endured physical pain like him. Anduin was also manipulated and crimes were committed with his physical body without his consent. It was some ugly stuff, and that guy is 25 years old with a life full of nothing but isolation and loss.
So Faerin just…keeping the hope and keeping the Light and doing the things by example instead of screaming, “Stop being such a soy boy and walk it off,” is fantastic and long overdue from a character in this game. She accepts him as a friend and leads with a soft and largely judgment-free example.
There is a lot of bad writing in WoW, but I like Faerin.
BG3 isn’t as good an example as you think, they were enabling you to choose different identities and styles, but not forcing you to. That’s actually the position most people would agree with, including me; let people do what they want but don’t force it, do it in good faith, and don’t preach to people.
The Last of Us was mainly popular because people liked Joel, and it bombed in TLOU2 after they unceremoniously killed him for political reasons.
There are many recent examples of games and media bombing which were laden with forced identity politics. Concord being the funniest example, which also leaned into it hard.
There are also recent examples of games the identity politics crowd tried to strong-arm but failed magnificently, Hogwarts and Wukong. These virtue signalers have no actual market clout, they’re just loud on social media. So stop listening to them.
People will tolerate it if its there and the game is good. But they’ll still criticize it. WoW is like that. The raids and dungeons are generally still the best in the MMO space, but lots of people are tired of the identity politics and criticize it.
If it’s the core selling point it’s practically always a negative.
It’s ok. I caught you in 4K.
You can try to weasel around this.
Sorry you got caught when I was having coffee. So next time don’t get up angry and think making a post is a good idea.
And you forum posters better be prepared when you come at my Queen Faerin Lothar.
You don’t like women npc
You don’t like visually black women I role of leadership.
That is your problem. If you make a post. Be sure it will get defended.
Calling me a militant ? No let’s me take this abuse who likes Jaina while hating on black NPC.
Largely agree. Still, the wow story needs to develop characters at not a drip fed speed. Its kind of a joke that WoWs campaign is shorter than a Resident Evil game, and Im supposed to get to know multiple races, allies, villains, and mainstay characters in a meaningful way. Its so surface level, and players are expected to project and read into what isnt shown so darn much.
This wall of text brings me back to my original point.