and yet never once did they get classes anywhere close to balanced. hybrids were still support classes and weren’t expected to be able to put up the numbers of pures except in rare circumstances.
Never did means never tried? Classic WoW was filled with multiple attempts to bring the classes inline with one another.
it was never trying to bring them in line with another. it was about fixing errors and making them better overall. hybrids were never intended to compete with pures in damage during vanilla or bc.
Delusional? That’s a bit much.
100k is a pretty conservative estimate, actually.
Yeah, right. That’s the only reason people play 16 hours a day to grind high warlord. They don’t really like the game. But it’s free so why not spend 16 hours/day playing it?
Who is delusional now?
Now sure, some people only play because it’s free. But for every one of them there are many more who do not play on a private server who would play on an official Blizzard server.
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I’m sorry I forgot to never argue with delusions. Forgive me and goodbye
over 200k alone signed a petition for classic wow.
various polls have as many as 33,000 contributions or more.
its funny you consider us delusional because we don’t agree with you.
because we actually want to play classic.
old school is new again, or didn’t you notice all the remasters and games that play old school style being made lately?
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Old school has always been a thing I mean there used to be brick an mortal shops sellong old console games.
All I see with these remastered games is just an easy way for companies to cash in. I mean wow a remasters warcraft 3 with a premium price tag is cool and all but let’s call it what it is.
okay but the reason they can even do that is because there is actually a demand for those games. if people weren’t buying them, they wouldn’t be remaking them
The differences between classes and specs when it comes to endgame PvE (i.e. raiding) is a too-limited view of what WoW is, of what Vanilla was.
If we wind up with a community where >90% are raiding Naxx and concerning themselves with the min/max grind of gearing and prepping for raids, the Classic experiment has failed, IMO.
Opening up raids and introducing the “spectator” version has really shifted the bar on WoW, and now anyone who doesn’t raid feels left out of the game. The numbers say that very few people, as a proportion of overall population, actually raided before 2.0 dropped. Something like 0.1% of the total population at the time had cleared Naxx before BC launched.
What were they doing, if not raiding? That’s what we should be asking ourselves. How do we get people out of this “raid or die” attitude?
I have no hard numbers on this, but judging from the OP’s and the comments in this forum, it seems to me that Classic will draw a disproportionately raid-centric crowd. I don’t think that will be good for Classic. I don’t think that will be good even for those who want to raid.
I hope I’m wrong about that…
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What happened to “goodbye”?
I should have been more specific and specified “non vanilla balance changes” or balance changes that were NEVER made during vanilla–such as crusader strike for paladins, taunt for paladins, etc.
Class balancing inevitably leads to mass homogenization and utter lack of class identity. Part of Vanilla’s greatness is how distinct and special each class feels within their own roles. Every class and spec is powerful somewhere within dungeon, raid, or PvP content.
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How upset is everyone going to be, when blizzard decides it’s not worth it to keep both classic and current game, for some obscure reason such as the new boss says he can significantly increase subscriptions if only there was no distraction from classic, and cancels the classic project a few months into it…
I’d stay subbed and play Classic for a long time if it fits my requirements.
I’d like it to stay up and running long enough for me to get my main and alts into Naxx on a regular basis.
I don’t fear my ability to get into Naxx on my main, but my alt probably wont go any further than AQ40. It would be nice getting a third alt up and into AQ40 at least as well.
This is kind of a disingenuous question, I feel, but I’ll give you a serious answer:
The changes never stopped. Everything that WoW is now with BfA is the result of the changes that continued throughout every expansion. The idea of Classic is that there was a point in time where things were very, very different, and those who played at the time wish to revisit that period.
Changes happened in Classic when it was just “WoW,” but those changes stopped happening to “classic” when it became The Burning Crusade. There’s a snapshot of what the game was like in 1.12 and before; that time frame is what we want.
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Imagine producing such low-quality bait, then thinking it was actually clever enough to be worth posting.
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How can you say you want no changes, but at the same time say you want to pick and choose what you want from each patch in vanilla? The game isn’t classic if you pick and choose which features you want from each patch. Either we get 1.12 as is, or you want changes and that opens everything up as a possibility
Anything with a 1.x patch number is fair game for Classic. If it was in WoW before Burning Crusade’s 2.0 content patch, it is part of “Classic WoW.” It’s not a hard concept, but some of you folks are intentionally misunderstanding the point.
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