I think it would be cool if Draenei and Blood Elves were unlocked during the TBC pre-patch, with maybe a month of time before TBC release. That way even casual players could have level 60 paladins or shamans ready for TBC. It could also be fun messing around with all the Classic raid content on patch 2.0 talents.
On top of this, they should do some sort of reservation system well in advance of TBC release for the new servers. That way players can guarantee that they can keep playing with their friends and guilds, while Blizzard can keep tabs on faction balance and set up limits or incentives to keep the servers as balanced as possible.
The other benefit of progressive patching is that the PvE and PvP metas wonât feel stale and will be continually evolving with each patch. This will keep the game feeling like a living game rather than a static one.
If they do this right, they wonât even have to time gate the content. If itâs overtuned at launch such that gear from a previous tier is required to clear the next, then all but the most hardcore guilds will have a true progression experience similar to original TBC. Back then, the reward for completing content was access to new content, and it would be wonderful if that system could be preserved in Classic via overtuning. Of course, Blizz could put in progressive nerfs over time to make the raids more accessible, just like they did back then.
Increased health in tbc will matter because healers run oom. In wrath they donât but in this expansion it does make a difference.
You could also adjust total damage output potnetial of raids and that would make raids take longer as well instead of just Taking boss health and saying X2 to creat your log term fights. For example you could reduce effectivness of gems of the wrong slot or give drums sated effect. Both of these make the fights last longer as well since your raid will do less damage overall.
They will not allow space goats and belfs to go through the portal with us. Overpopulation is going to be a MASSIVE problem in tbc. Why would you compound it by letting space goats and belfs into hellfire with the rest of us??
If a fresh server opened before the portal opened they could allow it then. On progressions servers i agree though. Taking a few players will work for the better on the dynamic layers they are going to use anyway.
imagine if classic+ was just adding be/draenei to classic
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They will not allow it even then. Why on earth would they let MORE PEOPLE into outland than already will be at launch? It makes zero sense! They can guarantee a portion of the player base will be in belf and space goat starting zones and NOT clogging hellfire. Even if they opened a server with the portal not open we would all make it to 60 and be waiting.
I really do not think I am wrong. It makes far more sense that blizzard lets us walk through the portal on our 60s just like original TBC launch. If people want perma classic its more likely they will allow those players to copy to a perma classic server and not the 95% of tbc players. I think the amount of people that want perma classic is in the minority and that minority will get increasingly smaller as they give in and join their friends in TBC.
The only thing I would like to see is for blizzard to put a cap on the side that heavily outnumbers the other. Stop new charâs from being made till the sides are within 10% of each other.
Also, I bet blizzard will release both progressive and fresh servers. Like that leave it up to the community to decide on which one they want to play on.
literally, all these âsuggestionâ threads about tbc are exhausting. the only option is snapshot character data on release night, no restrictions, no improvement, no extra bs to âimproveâ anything. stop being afraid of the playerbase.
Gee golly I can imagine how this would go on PvP servers.
ideally, they wouldnt even layer any zones during release. they would just let the zones be an unplayable laggy mess for a week
Honestly it doesnt really matter how many 60s are going to be going into HFP because Blizzard is going to layer the zone. It wouldnt matter if every person on one server was there as it would STILL be layered and you would get the correct number of people on a per layer basis.
The idea that you âcant do that because it hurts HFPâ in the Classic TBC sense is just as still as the idea of holding races back. The idea of Transfer progression is not really for people to spread out from HFP as Blizzard solved that issue in classic. The spread is to fix Server population issues that clearly exist on many realms.
So you can complain about how âNew races making it worseâ when the reality is there is more than one layer it doesnt matter after that. Not to mention the whole argument is based around the idea of Fresh Servers getting the new race head start as opposed to the progression servers. Since people level at different rates giving people a month or less to get to max level and get into TBC is more than enough split for that server.
Most rational people are not trying to take that away from you. In fact i am constantly reading how people dont want to do fresh start servers. But i also see that some people want them so i dont see the issue if you get your server and the Fresh Start get theres. The only time we would ever see eachother is in BGs/Arena
I would agree. Overall i the main intrest i have is a Fresh Server for various reasons. It would not be the end of the world if it does not happen. There are solutions to the things players see and most people need to read past the word Fresh while the people asking for fresh needs to stop making it an absolute for everyone.
Would be the most authentic TBC re-release.
It does do this. TBH, Blizzards versions of these things are honestly like testing phases of private servers before they gaged general player skill and buffed accordingly to make Vanilla and TBC âfeelâ like it used too.
Most good servers also somehow manage to start at phase one and dont release items out of wack, buffs out of wack, nerfs out of wack, they progress naturally for the most part. Somehow Blizzard not being capable of doing what a 2 man team did makes me honestly wonder what the hell is going on at the office.
Perhaps Classic was a learning, beta concept for a rerelease. Its kind of embarrassing though when games like Everquest and Runescape manage to capture the original feel with a perfect progression system akin to how the game actually released and somehow Blizzard just cant do it. Reeks of laziness.
That was clear from the get go. Re-architect it into Retail, massage some data, and if it takes too much work, donât change anything.
âWe came up with a new technology just for Classic, itâs called layeringâ. That was @#$%. It was sharding (i think thatâs the retail term?) under the covers. They did like 0 work to get that in.
There are more Alliance than Horde. And not by much. We have pretty much Alliance:Horde balance.
And, even if we didnât, why would anybody care about faction balance?
Only TBC wish start from FRESH so I can get that same classic launch feeling.
It doesnt matter if they want fresh start servers. Itâs just not going to happen, at least not exclusively
Please change TBC raids from 10 man to 20 man, and 25 man to 40 man.
Lol I would actually love this personally but it will never happen.
Yeah, I know. In fact Iâm just leveling alts in classic to move them to BC. It would be a colossal blunder to make us all start over at level 1. But as long as people keep starting these threads Iâm gonna weigh in so that thereâs a balance of views on the issue.
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