2 have video game experience and 1 doesnt. Its comes down to willingness to learn and personal capability. The 3rd friend she strugglef a bit more then her boyfriend and the other friend but she wanted to improve and she did. She was the first to time a 10 solo.
Hmm stop being grumpy and have a 500% better game experience, or continue being grumpyā¦
Tough choice.
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No experience and did it in a month? Bro be serious, I wanted to believe you but this is coming across as rage bait. If capabilities is no job and responsibilities so they can play it all the time. Even if true then this is nothing but anecdotal rantings.
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I donāt believe the game has had three new players to teach any time recently. Cool story tho.
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There is no magic to the game.
Anyone can learn if they are willing.
Fact is some people dont want to put in effort.
Now help 3 new randoms that you donāt know. Iām sure that fleeting experience of the time-honored tradition of herding cats will change your tune.
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By this logic, very known but poorly skilled streamers can brute force all content
As frustrating as it is unlikely to succeed for some, going through WoW on your first journey will always be your best journey
Being catapulted to end game by a knowledgeable mentor means they were guided into another personās perspective of the WoW end goal rather than wander under the giant arches of fallen kingdoms and aliens stars past 500 foot portals
I am grateful my mentor simply gave me some gold and saidā¦go forthā¦dieā¦be rebornā¦
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Been there done that. One is a CE raider. Picked him while i was streaming a zero to hero took him under my wing now he is a mythic raider
Thats not true when i first started i hated the game because i thought it was boring but thats because i refused to do the social aspect of a MMO as intended. I had way more fun in shadowlands when i really started doing content such as keys and raid.
Also its not forced perspective my 3 friends asked me to teach then because its what they wanted to to same for everyone else i have taught just simply they want to do mythic raid or push keys so i teach them
having a veteran player help you will obviously make things a whole lot easier than starting new and not knowing anyone.
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Youāre already invested in your friends, which is why you feel compelled to teach them to play to your standard. For someone new to the game without that social network, the reality is that top players arenāt typically going to invest time in helping strangers. They donāt know them, and they donāt owe them anything.
Additionally, finding three brand-new players and getting them all to perform well enough to time +10s is an extremely rare scenario. This is especially true in a season where a skilled tank or healer canāt carry underperforming DPS.
Iāve led guilds focused on helping new, returning, and less-skilled players progress in raiding and M+. Many of these players struggled to complete even +2s, and some had never experienced content beyond LFR. While we managed to push people to +10 when that difficulty was closer to what +2 is now, a significant portion didnāt care to push further. Others simply lacked the skill. Realistically, only about 5ā10% of those players ever managed to earn portals, even with substantial help. The higher you go, the less you can be carried.
Yes, guidance and support can speed up the learning curve, but they wonāt magically enable someone to time keys at the current +10 level. The upper limits of M+ and raiding have always depended on individual experience and skill.
Your own example reinforces this: your friends reached +10s because you shared your experience. A new player, on their own, wouldnāt even know +10s exist unless they stumbled upon that information. From there, theyād need both the desire to reach that level and the initiative to look up guides. And letās not forget that at +10, tanks are already dealing with mechanics that can one-shot them. Thereās nothing in the game itself that directly prepares someone for that.
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Ive helped several people who arent my friend its a personal hobby of mine to help others in wow as long as they are willing to learn. I took a random mage from a failed key and now mythic raider and turned into a good friend. I learbed from random people because i asked questions. Asking people to teach you and asking questions to vetern players is part of the game its a MMO after all not a single player game.
Edit: its not rare its all come down to if the player is willing to learn. Yes they will fail we all do but its will they learn from their mistskes or take to like many on the forums and blame the game. Thats the point of the post people have the resources to improve and if they dont want to they dont have a reason to complain as i am willing to take anyone willing to learn and help them
I wish this game didnāt have such a massive reliance on outside the game material to be able to do things within the game. This game is really bad at explaining or telling players what to do.
It shouldnāt take having to rely on a guide, or having to ask questions in the game to other players to be able to figure things out.
Donāt get me wrong, a player can still ask those questions or refer to a guide if they hit a hard spotā¦ but it shouldnāt be so heavily relied upon as it is right now.
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congrats master Yoda sounds like you found some prodigies.
Do you say the same thing about elden ring? What would you like the game to do? Flash bright and automatically push your buttons for you without you learning to do things. The game explains itself very well even shows you how to use group finder. Additionally your spells explain themselves. Dungeon guide explains the dungeons and raid. But again its a MMO meant to be a community and ignore a key part of the game the community and expecting the same results is insanity. Just say " hey i saw you were doing more damage/healing/not.dying what are you doing differntly then me" thats what i did and now i mythic raid and push keys
If i find better players then myself i still ask questions because even i am still learning
Teaching does no equate to hand holding.
That guys a troll just ignore him
I brought Michael Phelps to the public pool, and he can swim great.
So Iāve decided to remove all lifeguards from public pools.
^ OPās argument.
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Not even remotely comparable to what OP said.
That doesny add up. So let me rephrase the argument for you.
A teacher who does everything perfectly has all A plus students but 1 student decides he doesnt care and refuses to use the resources given to him or refuses to ask the teacher even tho the teacher did everything fto set him up for success besides do the work foe him. He then fails the tests and wonder why he is failing.
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Iām saying two users doing fine with your guidance =/= the game doesnāt require improvement to be accessible to more users.
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