mmm will never happen with the Horde races constantly attacking Alliance races.
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Fair enough.
I was trying to be polite and not put words in your mouth.
You could just have the 4 Horsemen show up in Archerus during the raid against Sylvanas and forcibly drag her off to face Bolvar’s judgment and re-indoctrination into the Scourge.
While she escapes Alliance Justice (for the moment) this isn’t going to be a pretty fate for her so it will mollify the Night Elf fans for the moment.
Honor Horde should be satisfied cause she is both out of the Warchief spot and the Horde as a whole.
Team Sylvanas isn’t pleased but the Forsaken focus shifts back to the Lich King and well they have their Queen to rescue in a future expansion down the road when bitter feelings have subsided (from knowing she is facing an absolute nightmare of her own creation).
This still leaves various details unresolved but it is a starting point.
Na cuz u gotta remember, everyone it turns out did get out of the tree so no reason to off her, and well, I couldent really think of an alliance leader to destroy with out ticking off ally players.
Although ill give ya credit your idea would probably be more entertaining.
By itself that would most likely not have been enough. But Sylvannas uses it to support her presumptions. That and the lack of aftermath for Genn. (and before anyone brings it up, private wrist slaps don’t count.)
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Horde doesn’t seem to care about that any more, given they’re working with Genn in Nazjatar.
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Not that I’ve seen… there is after all an Alliance officer in the same place giving you bounties on the Horde. Just as there is the reverse on the Horde base.
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Good boy Genn is keeping close watch on mass killer Lorthemar.
Calling Lor’themar a mass killer is a very large stretch, even for you.
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Lor’themar hasn’t mass killed anyone. He’s just exiled people. He’s like Malfurion. Too soft hearted for mass killings.
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Mass killer by association.
Neither has Sylvanas then. She just ordered it.
It’s an enemy mine situation where both sides are putting aside their issues to move against Azshara. As Thrall pointed out we keep uniting against other forces and then go back to killing each other.
Fixed that for you friend.
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Lor'themar even came crawling back to the High Elves to offer them aid after exiling them.
"Who would come to Quel'Lithien Lodge?" one asked.
Lor’themar looked down at him evenly.
“Do not be an idiot. You know who I am.”
The other looked him straight in the eye.
“That does not mean you are welcome, Lord Theron.”
Lor’themar unsheathed both of the swords he wore across his back. The Quel’Lithien guards’ knuckles whitened around their own weapons, and he saw one twitch his fingers slightly, readying the signal of attack to the myriad others who were surely hidden throughout the terrain. Silently the regent lord tossed his blades to the ground, then loosed his bow and quiver and dropped them as well. He motioned for his escorts to do the same, and when they had done so, he raised an eyebrow.
“Is that convincing enough of my honest intent?”
The first Lithien scout spoke again.
“Tell us why you have come.”
“I have news for Ranger Lord Hawkspear and High Priestess Skycaller,” he said. “Regarding…” He cleared his throat. “Regarding Prince Kael’thas.”
“So, then.” Renthar’s eyes glittered strangely—he almost reminded Lor’themar of Rommath. “Are you here on the prince’s orders to offer us an official apology?”
“I might be,” Lor’themar answered, “if he were alive.”
If either of the high elves in front of him had looked shocked before, it was nothing compared to their expressions now. The color drained from both their faces.
“Explain, damn you,” Renthar demanded.
Lor’themar took a deep breath and began to outline the events of the recent past. He had not entirely anticipated how painful it would be to relay the story, especially to two people who so thoroughly despised him. He drew the words from his throat, one by one, sometimes forcefully. He had to spit them across the room to get them out at all. When at last he had finished, he blinked once, as if waking up.
“The Sunwell is thus returned to us,” Aurora said. She turned her face to the window.
“Yes,” Lor’themar replied.
The Plaguelands’ absolute, dead silence fell across them. Lor’themar bowed his head, reliving his own moment of comprehension, when the last dust of battle had settled on Quel’Danas and the Sunwell had shone majestic and proud once again. He had stared into it with the same paralyzed expression that had now etched itself into Renthar’s and Aurora’s faces, and had found no joy in its glow. He had never dreamed the price of its return could be too much to pay.
Aurora’s voice startled him. “I had wondered why the pangs of the addiction felt so eased lately. I have not needed… help… to cope.”
“The magic in the Sunwell is different now,” Lor’themar said. “It may take a while for some to adjust.”
“Some, yes.” Aurora reached her hand up and seemed to grasp something that Lor’themar could not see, twisting it between her fingers as if it were a long ribbon. “I am a priestess of the Light. I know this magic.”
“It was a great gift,” Lor’themar heard himself say. Aurora looked sidelong at him, and he knew his lack of conviction had not gone unnoticed.
“If the prince is dead,” Renthar said, “then what will become of the crown of Quel’Thalas?”
“Kael’thas himself decreed that Anasterian will always be the last king of Quel’Thalas. The crown is unclaimed.”
Renthar narrowed his eyes. “And if someone were to lay such a claim?”
“There are none alive with any right to it.”
Renthar looked him right in the eye. Lor’themar matched his gaze just as fiercely. Renthar Hawkspear could doubt him in any way but this one.
Aurora spoke again. “I suppose this is what you came to tell us of.”
“Yes,” Lor’themar replied.
“Then feel free to leave,” said Renthar.
Lor’themar closed his eye. “There is one more thing.” This would be the hardest.
“Is there?” Renthar’s voice was flat. “Well?”
Lor’themar began, “and our position in the Ghostlands is more… secure… the Farstriders are finding themselves stretched a bit less. They - I - would send you regular supplies.”
It’s only a matter of time before he comes to try to make amends with the Void Elves.
Jaina convinces him that they’re different now by placing her cold, metal gauntlet on his bare arm.
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How is that relevant to what I said?
Lor’themar hasn’t ordered any mass killings like Sylvanas did. He would have even peddled back on the exiled if they would let him.
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No but he follows, supplies and gives troops to this mass murderer.
It makes him equally guilty.
You can’t just do something and say oops to absolve yourself of any sin.
Honestly, as small as it is … I would just like some stability in the Horde leadership by the end. The Alliance can blow up some capitals if it makes em feel better, but I really do just want certain reps in certain places of authority within the Horde for it rebuild. Preferably in some form that is more inclusive of ALL its membership (rather than WC3 with the others stapled on)
Gazlowe as Bilgewater leader; Rokhan officially the leader of the Darkspear; Thrall as Warchief (because he’s just the least contentious choice); Saurfang not following the Doomhammer route, and merely being the Orc Racial leader (and yes I understand this one is contentious, but I am so sick of old orcs escaping the consequences of their mistakes merely through an easy death).
Things like this.
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According to Elune you can. Elune forgives everyone, even the worst of monsters (Satyr, Twlight’s Hammer cultists) if you just repent enough:
There are two Satyr are reverted back to Night Elves in game. One was Priestess Driana in Azsuna, who was a ghost Satyr, and was reverted into a ghost Night Elf, and she rejoined the Court of Farondis. The other, more obvious and prominent one, is Avrus Illwhisper in Ashenvale that tears his own heart out to cure a dying Night Elf and he does become a Night Elf again, Avrus the Redeemed, by Elune’s will.
We also see this with Zamael Lunthistle’s ghost in the Searing Gorge, who joined the Twilight’s Hammer, but repented to Elune, and his soul was forgiven by Elune.
This is a strange story trope that a lot of media has accustomed us to. This moral paradigm that doesn’t work on a “scale of deeds” system but is rather simply having an all-forgiving god that will accept any repentance as long as it’s sincere enough.
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