For the Purge, the consequences matched the actions. And, once again, for the Purge, Lor’themar let bygones be bygones twice now.
I still stand by my previous statement that your attributing Lor’themar’s forgiveness to the attempted drowning of Orgrimmar (which Lor’themar has never made a statement on) as saying that Malfurion should forgive Sylvanas for the burning of Teldrassil as not making any sense.
So then you would agree with the statement that sylvanas gets a slap on the wrist? After all jaina dident even get that.
No, I’m rather saying the opposite. I’m saying that Jaina did not succeed at drowning Orgrimmar, so whatever attempt on her life made shouldn’t succeed, either. Sylvanas succeeded at burning Teldrassil, so she should be killed as well.
You forgot about her little ethnic cleansing again silly!
No I didn’t. Lor’themar forgave Jaina for the Purge.
You’re mixing up two different things again. I’m now fairly sure rather intentionally.
Well then im sure malf and tyranda can forgive sylvanas!
Then im sure after this allll blows over we can all have a good laugh about this whole mess over tea and cupcakes.
Im really not I fully understand what you’re trying to say, but its to binary, you say no city destroyed = no jaina dead, but city destroyed = sylvanas dead.
Its really not binary like that is there is much much more grey to it.
wait, so now the purge is as bad as teldrassil?
i guess that killing 5 belfs is the biggest crime in the history of the franchise.
alright, if this is there is so much more grey to it.
then why do you put those actions in the same scale of “black”
there is grey or not?
Already covered this:
And I’m sure you know this and are being nonsensical intentionally.
However, I actually realized a way to make this easier for you.
Jaina was never punished for the Purge.
Sylvanas was never punished for breaking Horde laws and continuing to develop and deploy the plague.
So they both went unpunished for something.
Jaina wanted to drown Orgrimmar, but was stopped.
Sylvanas wanted to burn Teldrassil, and succeeded.
An attempted crime is not the same crime as a successful crime.
Thus, yes, Sylvanas’ punishment fittingly is death for her crime. Death as punishment would not fit Jaina’s crime.
If you have a proposal for what would be a fitting punishment for Jaina for the attempt, by all means voice it.
Tell me this, what makes the Purge any better?
Yet an attempted crime, is still a crime, sunreavers died during the purge (she succeed), so death for jaina could be considered a viable option.
And yet you want Sylvanas to forego death for having directly ordered the death innumerably more people.
And then you post this:
Yea sure why not Jaina is on the same level, so why should sylvanas face death? Jaina lived and was redeemed.
And then you post this:
And? Its a spectrum, still puts her roughly to where sylvanas.
Not even close. Which you well know. You’re just being foolish intentionally.
Not foolish at all, a few things can still put you around the same level. Dosent matter if one character has more things.
Genocide is not the same crime as murder (Aethas’ guards during the Purge).
To preempt you, genocide is also not the same crime as attempted genocide (Orgrimmar).
I love how Horde players talk about Jaina. She was the person that supported the Horde against everyone on the Alliance that she was willing to sacrifice her own father in order to give them a chance. She continued to work for peace for many years but still she was a bad person according to the horde. She got her city obliterated to the point that it is now a wasteland but she forgave the horde. She got betrayed again so she finally snapped and everyone on the horde yells “evil”. How dare they talk like that about her. And now compare her with Sylvanas is beyond mind blowingly absurd.
Even Jaina in all her “evilness” has risked her live to save the world and the horde but im still waiting for Sylvanas to do something good for anyone other than herself and of course without having to kill and walk over anyone in the process.
So, I think we can both agree then both acts (ethnics cleansing ) and what you mentioned are horrendous acts and should be dealth with accordingly.
She helped save the world from the Lich King!!
let me tell you some key differences.
-she was the leader of the city and as such had the autority.
-she did give them the opportunity to surrender
-the silver covenant went wild without her knowledge.
-she didn’t know who was enemy or not.
-a sunreaver betrayed her trust
Don’t get me wrong,it was still “bad” if anything i would say that is the closest thing we have to “morally gray” in the alliance.
-teldrassil:
-the attack was unprovoked
-the military was already defeated
-she knew that there was only civillians remaining trying to escape.
-she didn’t give them the chance to surrender
-but she chosed to burn them anyway to enrage the alliance as much as possible.
like for real do i need to tell it to you?
so you are comparing “grey” with “black” really not the same.
“attemped crime” not only she didn’t do it, she did regret it for trying.
if she has to die because of some sunreavers died then sylvanas should die 500 times and go to wow hell. don’t you agree?
Wait, you said that some sunreavers died so she has to die.
so all the civilians killed in teldrassil she would have to die multiple times.
for the record she wasn’t redemed for the purge and never was.
the only redemption she got was with her nation and family.
and she doesn’t need it either(about the purge), if anything it would be one of those things that she will have to carry forever.