[MUST READ] Add standalone 'Arena servers' players can upload character too!

WoW Classic WoW Classic General Discussion
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Hello all,

INTRODUCTION (also TLDR version): I am opening a petition for Blizzard to open a separate ‘Arena’ server that those playing on official Classic servers can upload their character to. However, it should not be implemented until a later phase (maybe phase 3 or further) and, IN NO WAY, should the Arena server interfere with normal character progression on standard Classic servers.

Now before all you naysayers come in and say, “Leave classic at it is”, please read because I believe having this option would be great for the game’s longevity, replayability and growth.

Now to ease the ‘Vanilla-purists’ minds, these Arena servers would be COMPLETELY standalone from the official Classic servers. Players would have the choice to opt-in through an account-based service (similar to how current arena players upload their toons to the Arena tournament servers before a big event), to where they upload their Classic toon to the Arena server.

Here’s my list of reasons why these servers would be a great addition (and feel free to reply with other reasons you think of!!):

  1. It would give the pvp-centric (and even some pve) players more content outside the typical honor/raid schedule grind.
  2. Dueling tournaments could be hosted in a stable home and environment thus promoting more (either Blizz or 3rd party based) tournaments that players can participate in.
  3. It would ease high population server tension (ie streamer mega server) because people can now participate in PvP with their friends (or in tournaments) outside their own server.

To give you a little history on this suggestion:

Back in 2004/2005 when the PvP honor system was first announced- Blizz claimed that WoW arena would eventually make its way onto the Vanilla client. It wasn’t until later that they decided to pour more resources into raid-mechanic development thus waiting until WoW’s first expansion, TBC, where Arena content would be used as a major selling point. Because of Arena’s original relationship to Vanilla, I believe it would be great to have this type of system in its Classic iteration. Arena is one of the pivotal differences from Vanilla to any later expansion.

LETS TALK MAPS: As we all know, the retail Arena scene is filled with expansion-specific maps that would be hard to implement for a Classic-based experience. Which is why Blizzard would need to use the Arena maps that already exist in Classic.

Without going into too much detail (and I’ll edit if I miss some), for content-intro maps we have:

  1. Gurubashi Arena
  2. Diremaul Arena
  3. Ruins of Lordaeron (did not exist in Vanilla as a hostile, faction-neutral PvP arena but holds true to Classic-flavor)

These three could serve as a good foundation to start with and build upon while devs implement more as time progresses.

So now I open the floor to you, the playerbase. What are your thoughts on said suggestion? Do you like or dislike the idea? Please give as much feedback as possible, even if you dislike the idea!!

I strongly believe that this should exist eventually and your feedback will ultimately help it get (or not get) there!

Thanks for reading,
-plebTV

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You’re going to have to add far more than one, due to scheduling issues, when Swifty makes his tournament on the same day as TipsOut, and then Asmongold does the same to mess with both of them.

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That’s all in the details and I have faith Blizz would work out how many they’d need if they decided to implement the idea.

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Petitions are against forum ToS.

:cocktail:

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Lol really?

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That would take away from world pvp. Roll on pve if you want to duel?

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Not against ToS. Simply frowned upon and can be delete if you’re asking people to comment as a vote and not trying to create a discussion.
To fully quote the blue post

" Petition posts are frowned upon.

  • These are discussion forums and, as such, we ask that you hold discussions. Creating a thread to ask for replies as votes is not a discussion. Threads violating this guideline are subject to deletion."

This sounds like trying to have a discussion to me. And thus not against the rules.

I’d say removing the word petition from the title, but they literally did that as I was typing the sentence lol

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Ya I changed it because it is more of something to discuss than vote on.

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I see you’ve got some ladder placements to your history, that said you should know better than anyone why arena’s would be terrible in classic. There’s 0 balance for arenas because classes weren’t designed with arenas in mind due to them not existing at the time. The compositions would be a mess and feel really bad to play.

I’m not saying no because I don’t love arenas, I’m 100% with you being they’re my favorite part of the game, but we’re way better off hoping TBC happens at some point, which was subjectively the best PvP expansion in terms of balance due to heavy focus going into arenas as a result of them being a brand new thing. There’s also the simple fact arenas aren’t Classic, just wasn’t made for true competitive PvP until BC.

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Not agreeing to there being arenas, this is just poor logic, if you’re gonna complain about arenas, you should have problem with BG’s too.

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Organize a tournament bracket yourself and run it in The stranglethorn arena.

This has the added benefit allowing anybody alliance or horde to come and watch no matter their level. Which is actually one of the things I am most looking forward to.

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I’m with you, Vanilla WoW PvP as a whole is pretty imba, but that could be solved with some server side nerfs to damage, or buffs to mitigation; as well as limiting which consumes/profession items were allowed in an arena match. It would need thorough testing but I believe Blizz has the tools and an experience-rich history to implement something that could be a fun experience.

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Personally I don’t see any problem with it if it’s something people wanted to do. It wouldn’t have any connection to Classic servers except it’s where your character is imported from, so doesn’t affect Classic servers. It’s not really my thing, but I think it’s a neat idea.

I’d be against it if it was added to classic servers, but that’s not what’s being proposed.

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Well that’s the idea, add content to a 15 year old game that does not interfere with the ‘vanilla experience’

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“We Want Classic because of the Community!!!” Classic Fans
“Please add something that will destroy community.” Also Classic Fans

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I believe it wouldn’t destroy the ‘community feel’ because less of the player base would participate than you’re probably imagining.

0 reward arena matches would definitely only appeal to the most hard core of pvpers, or those looking for something to do during content droughts.

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How would what’s essentially a minigame that’s played off server affect the community on server? You mine as well be saying a new hearthstone xpac will destroy the classic community…

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I applaud the OP for coming up with something cool and different, and not making another layering thread.

But in reality, when arenas were implemented any class could beat any class if played properly, whereas that’s not the case as it was back in the day.

this would eliminate the vanilla classes and trees because they would just be giving classes the ability to beat other classes just 'cuz. Where would it start and stop? Would everyone get an interrupt regardless talent spec? Lots of logistics to figure out, but in the end, the classes would be completely different than in their respective classic servers.

Although it would be cool if Blizz ever did this that they implemented a ladder system.

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PvP played OFF server…
Streamer events played OFF server…
[Insert anything] OFF server…

Destroys the community…

I do not like BGs and Cross Realm BGs even less…why… because it killed community immersion…

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Very valid concern, but as stated- I don’t believe the appeal will be as great as some think. It would just be an extra outlet for those who want to participate.