Blizzard did something about Valor points too, guess what is coming back the next patch?
There are bots doing bad things, which means multi box players are innocent!
Didnât know this was an anime where the real bad guy reveal makes all the lesser bad guys actually good guys.
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Not multiboxing, thatâs for damn sure.
Thank god for that. Thanks for reminding me!
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Never speak too soon 
Yeah okay. You sit there and wait for them to bring back your p2w after they specifically went out of their way to remove it.
Iâm sure thatâll end well. Itâll be any day now.
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Lol, how is it P2W while I can get as much gold with the tokens. You peopleâŚ
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Itâs hard to say where exactly all the gold comes from⌠some AH flipping, some botting, some selling a form of a boost⌠but I can almost put my life on it that no one has bought a Mythic CN clear or a Gladiator carry with gold that was earned from legitimately skinning mobs or mining ore.
One big way people essentially buy gold at a discount is through TCG items. Purchase the TCG item on eBay or wherever and find a buyer in game and sell it. The cost of a Spectral Tiger code in terms of cash paid vs gold worth is much much MUCH more profitable than the token.
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I like them so your point is invalid.
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Many would rather buy botter gold. 20 bucks for a wow token which equals 110k or 20 bucks on a gold buyer site for 300k?
nope.
multiboxing was never an issue.
so few legit players participated in the playstyle, that it had absolutely no impact on anything.
stop kidding yourself.
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It was an issue. Seeing them everyday. Getting ganked by them in Nazjatar during the events. Watching them fully tap nodes over and over and over. The problem had become massive ever since they changed how nodes worked. What was a niche encounter became an everyday occurence.
They bragged on the forums about how they paid for their 10+ account just farming. Clearly⌠something was broke.
Try opening your eyes some.
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Good news, Blizzard is not stopping you or anyone from multiboxingâŚ
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Which proves the point MB werenât the problem.
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Never said it was
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donât take on groups of players by yourself?
weird how i could still be in a zone with the legit boxers and the non-legit bot trains, and still be able to get to nodes.
sounds like a âyouâ problem.
why does it matter how they paid for them?
if they were able to do it, you were too.
boxers existed long before tokens.
the issue was, and still is, botters.
ahh yes, the mantra of the blind.
âŚnext youâll be calling me a sheep and telling me to âdo my researchâ. 
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Multi boxing was always a problem and itâs embarrassing that it took years for anything to be done. Notably, the straw that broke blizzard was that gold revenue surpassed sub revenue so at that point they were no longer hurting their whales.
Imagine being a player trying to farm a rare for transmog and you show up and the entire path of the rare is covered with moonkin spamming moonfire. Going for an herb and a train of druids appears, clicks it eight times and itâs gone. Playing a game with a new player who asks what is that and having to explain that with a little more money and some software macros you can pay real money to be better at any outdoor part of the game.
Almost everyone who doesnât multi box hates multi boxers. The argument that you ever did anything good for the economy left with merged auction houses and was never any stronger than Coke arguing if they were the biggest beverage company they could lower prices.
Play the game like itâs supposed to be played or find another game to cheat in.
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they would fly down, one shot you, then fly off.
maybe you donât understand how this works. If there are 10 of them, which there usually was, they would fully tap the node. Obviously this didnât happen on every realm. So, congrats if you were able to farm. The shear volume of threads on the topic alone is enough to qualify how large the issue was.
Why does it matter? It ruins the experience of the game. The game wasnât meant to be played by a horde of dumby accounts taking actions from a single source.
Yes, they have existed since I started playing. As I said, it was a rare occurrence in the past. Having played since BC, it wasnât until the node change in Legion that the numbers blew up. Prior to that, making gold as a multiboxer was mostly limited to instance farming. Then they took over the hyper spawn points and abused it to the point blizzard nerfed them⌠rather then just addressing the real problem⌠which they finally did.
They were both issues. Botters are still an issue and thankfully multiboxers are not.
Considering how stupidly obvious the issue was, the fact that you want to argue about it says enough.
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yes, it happened on every realm.
thatâs just your opinion.
if blizzard felt the same way, theyâd ban multiboxing.
no, they didnât address the problem.
this hasnât changed, because the issue was never multiboxers.
nope.
again, there were so few legit multiboxers, it had no impact on anything.
(other than peoples feelings)
so how has anything changed?
group finder is a mess with masses of WTS from heaps of different companies.
people are getting their mailboxes spammed with WTS from these companies.
players are complaining about blizzard being meanies for handing out suspensions when theyâre stupid enough to buy from these companies who are destroying the game.
and:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/bots-attack/886331
âŚso tell me again how a handful of legit multiboxers were hurting anything?
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Honestly, to expand on what you said, it never was. Regrettably the community has a long term built up negative view on Multiboxing for several reasons.
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There is the perception that Multiboxing is 100% easy mode and that there is no skill involved what so ever. Many of these people usually upset for personally being the victim of a Multiboxer in WPvP or the occasional BG (Both of which are rare occasions) The assumption is ususally people who have never done it and do not actually understand what goes into Multiboxing. They have a romanticized idea of what itâs like.
- I multiboxed back in Cata and stopped for several reasons including the fact that itâs a bit clunky and that clunkyness lessened the fun of the experience for me. Cost as well as machine requirements also played a factor but itâs seriously not as brainless as a lot of anti-multiboxers try to paint it as.
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There is this assumption that itâs Multiboxers ruining the game economy when legitimate Multiboxers have always made up a tiny fraction of the server groups.
- Yes, it is true that a Multiboxer can gather much more efficiently than a lone player but not at a rate to ruin a market. Those who are ruining the market are not the Multiboxing Players but the botters who are running 24/7 without the need of player interaction. Unfortunately, many members of the community have twisted that into anti-Multiboxing propaganda. In fact, you can find several threads of people complaining about botters but putting Multiboxer in the title or body even though their issue was clearly with bottling.
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The cost and income envy. There are a lot of players who are just spiteful towards anyone who has more disposable income than them.
- You can see it with things like the cash shop where it is not Blizzard being target but players who have purchased stuff from the cash shop being harassed. Without fail, whenever a new Cash Shop item (Mount, etc) hits the store the forums fill with thread of stories of people being harassed for owning these things. As petty as it sounds, the idea of someone having a machine good enough to Multibox as well as the income to support it riles up certain players.
Unfortunately, all of these points combined into a very long running anti-Multiboxing campaign which, often time, most of the threads were actually Anti-Botting but being directed at all Multiboxers.
And, to build on your statement hereâŚ
Botters donât care about the game rules. Blizzard can ban Multiboxing but the thing is that Botters wont care. No botter is ever going to go âGolly gosh, that is against the rules now? Better stopâŚâ
If they were already breaking the rules then why would a new rule stop them. You are 100% right the rules are ineffective because botters donât care either way. All the ban to Multiboxing did was punish actual players without doing anything to the actual issue which was botting.
It continues to surprise me that Blizzard, after 15 years, made the choice that they did. A choice that punished a tiny portion of their playerbase for pretty much no reason.
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I saw what, at least looked on the surface, as MBers pretty regularly in BFA. I do not see them anymore in Shadowlands. Closest Iâve seen is the bots that run with a hunter on the back of a druid.
Well Blizzard is the one with the best data on the actual impact it has on the game and they decided it was enough to effectively break it/downplay it through banning the popular method for how it was performed, and if it finds a way to be effective in the future through some loophole theyâll probably break it again.
So maybe you should stop kidding yourself.
You have two choices to make here.
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Assume Blizzard knows the actual impact of what MBing had on the game instead of your assumptions as a player without that data and that they finally decided to curb it given the impact it had on the game.
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Assume Blizzard did it as a PR stunt to curb player resentment which likely impacted their bottom dollar in some negative wayâŚfor some reason.
Regardless I will never agree with the idiotic logic that âbad guys donât care about laws so you shouldnât try to stop themâ which is what your logic effectively boils down to.
If you actually believe nonsensical drivel like that I encourage you to stop locking your car and house doors because spoiler alert: bad guys donât care you locked them. Theyâre still going to break in.
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