Wrong - using repeating software is bannable. Multi-boxing is fine if you play both clients legit.
WoW is really the only MMO that truly hates it. And it is not an unfair advantage. No multiboxer has ever gotten R1 while doing it, never gotten a cutting edge or a KSH while doing it. Yet plenty of other people have who did not do it.
Multiboxing is allowed, but botting is not.
If he actually has to press keys for his Priest to do stuff, that’s fine, but if it is doing stuff with automated scripts, that’s bannable.
Most people can’t even play one character well. You are over estimating the average players capability.
That would be the use of software to help with automation. No matter how small that is still using it. Your average player barely manages one character. Most peoples brains would fry alt+tabing between windows to cast spells and keeping track of which character they are one. alt+tab once to the first character, then you alt+tab and your back to the first, wait no I need the 3rd okay alt+tab 3x okay, okay, well by that time the mob is dead or whatever character has agro is.
Most people do not have the capacity to do it without software automation. Anyone who says otherwise is simply lying or has very special and unique skills that 99% of the rest of the player base does not. Mind you all of this is coming from someone who has been writing script and automation software for games since the 90’s. I have played many games where multiboxing was common. I have worked on AI response automation for gaming bot software in the past.
WoW is really the only MMO that truly hates it. And it is not an unfair advantage. No multiboxer has ever gotten R1 while doing it, never gotten a cutting edge or a KSH while doing it. Yet plenty of other people have who did not do it.
That is not how that works. Most players don’t care about KSH or worlds first. They just care about having the same playing field as others. Let’s say for example you show up to go fishing and an event, everyone starts at the same time, tools are provided. You get handed your rod and reel, some boots, and a tackle box and bait. You see the others are there excited about the day, they are all getting their supplies and everyone is off. 20 minutes into it you look out on the lake and there are three dudes, on fishing boats, sonar, custom poles, etc. Most people would feel rather crappy and cheated.
This is hardcore, people feel like everyone should at least be on the same playing field at the event. It ruins the fun for others, especially those who may not even start as skilled or with as much experience as others to see other people with such an advantage. And to be honest and frank less than .0000001% of multiboxers use 0 automation or assistance tools to accomplish it.
you’re just salty about that gnome who has like 10 mages/priests who AoE the horde in front of raid instances, aren’t you
Wrong - using repeating software is bannable. Multi-boxing is fine if you play both clients legit.
That is what I said.
Multiboxing.
None of this actually happened guys.
Ignore the troll and move on
WoW is really the only MMO that truly hates it. And it is not an unfair advantage. No multiboxer has ever gotten R1 while doing it, never gotten a cutting edge or a KSH while doing it. Yet plenty of other people have who did not do it
Rofl. I played Faerlina P2 opposite Prepared and Jerome… There is nothing you can do against 25-40 mages spamming aoe in unison… It is absolutely an advantage.
Youre wrong and your argument is terrible.
Try harder
If you see a Cow-Druid named ‘Jeddite’ on Skull Rock following another character with a Sailor Moon-esque name and healing said other character (who may be a Hunter, I dunno), I know nothing about that.
shut up and heal me – we’re only level 6.
I get KSH and PvP titles and all the other stuff that I do for fun. Truth is, none of that stuff is obtainable by mulitboxing. It really serves no purpose anymore. I did it about a decade ago.
I would not multibox HC even if it were still allowed. As a boxer when you level you do end up dying a lot. It takes way more effort to gear up your toons. You want them in full epics? And it is PvE epics… then that is 5x the grind that you have to do to make it work. And every node you take as a boxer gives you no chance of getting it with all the others. So you would have to be in the zone for well over 10+ hours just get enough ore to make one simple low level vest for all your toons. I got all my stuff done without boxing. I did it out of being bored. Then I quit long before it became banned.
Main reason it became banned was because people were abusing it by mass boxing where they would lag out an entire zone and make it impossible for any other players to play. I had a small group of only 4 toons for my main set. You cannot tell me for half a second that that ruins your gameplay in any way.
You cannot gear yourself up the same as a boxer in Classic. So you get one epic drop, only one of you has it. You want to go for Thunderfury, then you have to do it multiple times when getting it even once is difficult. It does not give you an unfair advantage. If it did then the multiboxers would be the ones holding the titles and all the cool mounts but they are not.
You want Invincible and Shadowmourne as a group of 5 boxers…then good luck getting that mount 5 times and grinding out Shadowmounre 5 times. The amount of gold and real life money it takes to do it is tremendous. Thats why most MMOs allow it because it brings them in massive amounts of money.
If it is so OP… show me a single boxer who has a full set of multiboxed toons that are all rocking Cutting Edges and glad titles and R1s. Cuz if it is as overpowered as you say, then you should have zero problem pointing me to all of these multiboxers who have exactly all of that.
Prepared and Jerome… There is nothing you can do against 25-40 mages
Prepared didnt use mages. And also, you people for some odd reason think that you can go vs a raid boxer with one or two toons and bring them down. You complain when one single toon was unable to take on 10 shamans all at the same time… that kinda sounds like a you problem at that point. I dont do it anymore. I quit it.
You people who want it back should have done it 10+ years ago when it was still a thing. Your fault for missing out.
Prepared didnt use mages
He definitely had some mages. I was there lol. We fought through his nonsense every raid for months… And when you’re running 65+ accounts, it really doesn’t matter what class you’re playing. Consecrate gets the job done as well as anything…
But to pretend that running 65 accounts isn’t giving you an advantage is beyond disingenuous…
And also, you people for some odd reason think that you can go vs a raid boxer with one or two toons and bring them down.
Again… He was on our server for months. He was running over 65 accounts at one point, and usually had Jerome there with him running 20+… So two players with the dps of 2 full raids, and more coordination. You just have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
that kinda sounds like a you problem at that point. I dont do it anymore. I quit it.
You’re an idiot lol.
But to pretend that running 65 accounts isn’t giving you an advantage is beyond disingenuous…
He ran 80 most times. You cant do full raids with that many, cant do much of anything other than to clog up space and waste a lot of time. And it doesn’t give you any advantage. You have to grind all your epic weapons 80+ times. You want Thunderfury for Classic and have 80 toons that can get it? Who do you think will do better with it, one person who only gets it one time or one person who wants to get it over 80 times? And that is an advantage to you that you have to grind it out 80 times or do the dreadsteed quest on multiple accounts so many times and so much of that stuff cannot be shared. And you want mats for stuff you can never get enough, you also cant get credit for most of the quests while in a raid group, you have to do a quest for gathering to unlock other quests multiple times, so a quest to get 20 pieces of meat done with almost a hundred toons will take almost 4 hours cuz you keep clearing out the zone and have to do it by separating your groups over and over again and having each of them loot.
And yes by your own words it is such an advantage… So I invite you once again t show me even one single muliboxer who is rank 1 on their multibox toons in anything or any who got any form of a server first or anything of the sort, because by your own logic, they should have… But you do not see a single one who ever has.
And very annoying how only World of WarCraft has these threads back to back about people hating it so much. Just let them do it. Just because you are very clearly jealous of the fact that they are able to do it and you are not, does not mean that they should be not able to do it. But I don’t do it at all in Classic or any of that. So far I have counted less than 10 people doing it in HC servers. Both did really terribly.
Many gathering quests there are required to progress up the quest chain and as a multiboxer that puts you at an extreme disadvantage.
I highly doubt you ever went up against Prepared… sorry to say but you seem to know so little about the guy. He hardly ever stacked mages. He did shammy and DK stacking mostly and preferred hunts over mages too btw. And also had druids and ALSO never ran using only the same class the entire time and ALSO never ran with only 65 accounts, he was 80+ at the minimum and went up to 120 sometimes.
You can see multiple YT vids of Prepared getting crushed by a boxer with less than half his accounts.
Multiboxng with hardware of software isnt even allowed in Classic anyways so I dont see why you people are up here posting this like it is a problem.
You just have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
That would be you. He used boom druids for his caster rushes. That is 40 starfalls from one single raid group, 80 treants, lots of self heals and the ability to rez as well, he also had death knights as well in another raid group. Mages were not his go to and he didnt have just 65+ accounts. You have said that multiple times.
You didnt even know who Prepared was until I told you his name. You thought his name was “He”, “That multiboxer”.
And once again. Show me a SINGLE multiboxer out there who has rank 1s, 3k ratings in anything, has R14 or Hero, has KSM,KSH, KSC, servers firsts, just anything at all that proves your point that they do indeed have an unfair advantage… because from where I stand, I have yet to see a single multiboxer have even one of those things while multiboxing. And you are posting on a Garmuck thread and actually agreeing with the guy. The guy is such a blatant forum troll that I wouldn’t be surprised if he himself is a multiboxer.
He knows the answers to very question he ever asks 100% of the time.
And to answer him, no atomization has ever been allowed EVER. So even if MB was still allowed, what that person is doing would never be. So yes it is reportable.
He ran 80 most times. You cant do full raids with that many, cant do much of anything other than to clog up space and waste a lot of time. And it doesn’t give you any advantage. You have to grind all your epic weapons 80+ times. You want Thunderfury for Classic and have 80 toons that can get it?
What are you even talking about bro? You good? Because you seem to be having a hard time focusing…
Who TF is talking about Thunderfury??? You don’t need epic/legendary gear when you’re controlling 80* characters. THATS THE WHOLE POINT.
You didnt even know who Prepared was until I told you his name. You thought his name was “He”, “That multiboxer”.
Again, are you ok? Because you seem to be having a real tough time here… Maybe pack it in and try again tomorrow
Rofl. I played Faerlina P2 opposite Prepared and Jerome…
Who TF is talking about Thunderfury???
I did. I used it as an example of how difficult to get on multiple toons just to prove you wrong that it is an advantage in every single way. I just gave you proof of how it wasn’t simply by stating how difficult it would be to get that one singe weapon on 80 toons. By your logic, it should be super easy to do so since multiboxing gives you a clear advantage in every way at everything.
You don’t need epic/legendary gear when you’re controlling 80* characters. THATS THE WHOLE POINT.
Thats not the point I was making. I am saying that if you do want to go for any epics than it is going to be 80 to 100 times more the grind to get all those weapons on all those toons. I play Classic HC on two of my toons naked. My other did it with only getting quest reward gear… so you saying that epics and legos are…“needed” for anything at all is just plain ridiculous. You can get to level 60 without them. You can do dungeons without full epics, in fact, most people who ended Classic the very first time around did not have full epics equipped and many didn’t even come close to grabbing the lego weps.
If you were capable of following any sort of conversation, then you would know why I brought it up and did so as an example of how difficult it would be to get that on over 80+ toons to disprove your point that multiboxing makes everything easier.
There is nothing you can do against 25-40 mages spamming aoe in unison… It is absolutely an advantage.
Yea there is… get out of the way. You think that you as one single player should be able to defeat 40 toons all at the same time? Just look at all the YT vids of people going against him. He gets wrecked by raid groups of 10 people back to back and even brags about how he is able to wipe 20 people using 80 toons. Every single time he has gone up against an equal or greater force, he has been defeated.
Im still waiting for proof that it is so op. Still waiting for all those rank 1 boxers and boxers with 3k+ rating, all those with back to back KSHs stacked up and with CEs to go with it. If they are as greatly overpowered as you say, then you should have no problem linking me a Scarab Lord, rank 14, multiglad 3k rated, multi CE, raider with every KSH. I will await your link for all of these hundreds of multiboxers who have done all that since according to you, THEY have the advantage over both you and me.
Show me a single one that has been top at anything ever in any category for both PvP and PvE.
I did. I used it as an example of how difficult to get on multiple toons just to prove you wrong that it is an advantage in every single way.
Which brings us back to “you seem to be having a hard time focusing.” No one ever said “every single way.” But congratulations… you murdered that scarecrow
so you saying that epics and legos are…“needed” for anything at all is just plain ridiculous.
You don’t need epic/legendary gear when you’re controlling 80* characters.
What are you even talking about bro? You good? Because you seem to be having a hard time focusing…
I’m gonna assume you’re just drunk and enjoying your Friday… Catch back up with us tomorrow after you’ve sobered up