Multiboxing positivity

Why do you bother… Your patience is unholy.

So, uh, everyone is guilty of automation since the OS automates a lot of tasks. Congratulations on redefining the term so broadly that everyone should be banned.

You’re only one arguing semantics. You keep accusing other people of your own antics.

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Sometimes I don’t now, just don’t really enjoy leaving things open ended, I also get annoyed when people mischaracterize me, or my opinions, so I feel like I end up spending alot of time correcting people than actually being able to address the issue.

Probably just a wow forums thing.

Well, you could stop spreading misinformation, that’d be a good start.

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Now you’re just being disingenuous in a deflection attempt. :roll_eyes:

I am not spreading misinformation.

That’s all you’ve done in this thread.

Multiboxing can not reasonably be described as being any type of automation.

So there’s only two possible options here. First, you don’t understand how multiboxing works, but you feel a need to weigh in anyway. Second, you do understand how multiboxing works but you stoop to spreading misinformation to bolster your argument.

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I don’t think any of it matters in the long run. You will have people explaining why something is good or bad and just go back and forth. Instead of calling it The Sin Wars, could maybe call it The 3rd Party Wars?

This makes me chuckle now.

All praises to Ion.
Lord of game directing.
And survivor of the BFA fiasco.
When he awakened from his long slumber.
My lord and master spoke to me of secrets that few mortals know.
He told me the kingdoms of the high multi-boxing and the pits of the anti-boxing engage in an eternal war.
He revealed the EULA and TOS that brought this discord to the realms of man,
My lord has named the battle for this game and all who exist here THE 3rd PARTY WAR!

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Right, get back to me when multi-boxing can be done without third party software to facilitate it as smoothly as it’s done now with the third party software.

KVM switch.

Next question.

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So you give up.

Guess we’ll see? I mean asking someone if they’re mentally stable in response to aggression isn’t really that offensive. Though I’m glad you found 1 reportable thing on my end among all of that.

It’s funny that you use that word :slight_smile: https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/38904-multiboxing-rules-and-semantics/

Semantics issue #1:
Is using one keyboard to send signals to multiple instances of WoW automation? In other words, what is the definition of automation as it applies to WoW?

Using a keyboard setup like what you’re describing? Not automation.
Setting up a macro with said keyboard that would, for example, automatically press Fireball each time it was available? Automation.

Semantics issue #2:
Software (such as Keyclone, Octopus, etc) to emulate a keyboard multiboxing solution is, by nature, “3rd party”. Is “3rd party software” synonymous with “bot” or “automation”? Are all types of “3rd party software” bannable?
Likewise, hardware, by nature, is “3rd party”. What kinds (or uses) of 3rd party hardware are bannable?

Is it sending an identical signal to all client windows or switching between them to send commands? Not automation.
Is it playing the game for you, or rather, for one of your client windows? Automation.
All hardware is considered neutral as long as its commands and features are not being used to automate gameplay.

I think the most relevant response to your current topic

Add in a 3rd party program. You press ONE button and all 5 screens react. How exactly is that fair/legit? It’s not. The ability to control 5 computers at once with 1 single keyboard and 1 single press of a button is automation. The ability to make your characters cast their individual spells and skills at once by pressing 1 button is automation.

Is not automation by our standards. This is why multi-boxing is just fine.

So to Blizzards standard of automation it’s fine. Automation is tricky, it’s not bad in itself, another example would be those addons that autovendor for you or autorepair.

More recently Auction House Much Slower Today - June 16 - #13 by Kaivax Blizz took action against users

using addon-driven automation to gain a competitive economic advantage over other players

So maybe one day Blizz will change their stance on Multiboxing but as of right now, by their standard, it’s not the bad automation.

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Honestly, if you think calling people trolls for having opinions that differ from yours is clever…well, good luck in life. I’m actually impressed that this conversation is still going on. Going outside would be good for your mind. Just got back home myself. :slight_smile:

Hey boxer here, was in the thread 800 posts ago.

Boxing is fun, challenging(did my first m+2 on 5hunters) Such fun! new tactics and all real fun

So, again, it’s just Blizzards personal interpretation of it.

Which is subject to change, just like their opinion on Vanilla servers eventually changed.

Yep, could change one day.

My interpretation of their stance is player interaction like the blue mentioned with fireballs. Yeah I cast 20 fireballs at once but I hit a key for that one action to occur on 20 clients. If a murloc came into cast range of me and my team fireballed him without me doing anything I’d get roflbanned.

And their personal interpretation is all that matters. They get to define what is or is not automation in regards to World of Warcraft, not you.

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And feedback regarding it might lead to a stance change.

So, we’re back at square one, with me providing my personal feed back on it, where I do not like it, and I do believe it provides an unfair advantage to players with money to burn, and believe it’s not really beneficial to the game as a whole.

Individual multi-boxers might not think they negatively effect a game, but snowflakes also don’t blame themselves for the avalanches.

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But you don’t need money to multibox anymore, buy accounts with gold, pay sub time with gold

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Which only means it has to be tolerated. Doesn’t have to be liked or supported.

Except that other players take issue with it. I’ve had several run ins with multiboxers both on same faction and opposite. For the opposite, it ends in a death that is often unavoidable. Sure the same thing can happen if 5people were running around but that has happened to me far less than a multiboxer pressing 1 button getting the power of 5 out of it.

And on same faction I might as well just wait it out or go to a different zone as if I keep up I’ll be waiting for quest kills/collecting quests.

So again while not against any rules they cause issues at times for players. Which will cause a dislike. It doesn’t matter if your keys are cloned or pressed by a program.

And bots can’t do this? Oh right, its not allowed. That is the only difference in this point.

Its mostly not for everyone because of money and time. And money is always going to cause a unrest between people.

I understand that muliboxing is acceptable by blizzard. Which I don’t report or verbally harass them. But I’m not going to relent on the fact that it goes against the spirit of a MMORPG. I don’t have to like it, I just have to tolerate it.