I didn’t whine! Perish the thought. I don’t think about multi-boxers except upon two occasions:
1.) I encounter one in the world (generally picking herbs) and think, “I think that’s a multi-boxer…” Then I watch for a minute and confirm, “Yep. Multi-boxer,” and continue with my day.
OR…
2.) They come to the forums and post something about multi-boxing. In this case, the OP posted a “positivity” thread which asserts that multi-boxing helps the WoW economy. I hear this pretty frequently when the topic of boxers comes up, and disagree with OP on that score…so I commented.
Hardly whining. In all my time posting on these forums, I think it’s the first time I’ve ever said a word about boxers driving down profits and running out the single farmers from the market, and I didn’t even get emo or angry or wax eloquent about it.
I have an opinion about a topic that was posted on the GD. Isn’t that what we’re all here for?
I’m a druid scribe main (and I’m not a boomkin). I pick the anchor weed for my guild (another guy does the zin’anthid–he’s a paladin, not a boomkin. /grin). I pick flowers in flight form 3 days per week for one hour each time. I make all of the raid pots for my guild on Meriweather, and I make all of the war scrolls and unlock a bunch of boxes with my druid. If there is another druid doing the same thing I’m doing, I simply reverse my pattern. If there is more than one druid doing what I’m doing, I leave and come back another time…just like I do when I see a multi-boxer in the area I’m trying to farm.
Druids are not typically the ones I see multi-boxing. More often than not, the boxers are in Sky Golems when I see them, which–of course–we don’t need.
Multiboxing consolidates too much power in the hands of one individual. Taking the power of multiple different characters and distilling them down at a rate far greater than had there been an equivalent number of equally geared characters operating independently (also consider the skill level of the average player, not everyone operates like a rank1 glad or 5k io player). Multiboxing allows people to be more self-reliant than should be possible in a game that positions itself as an MMO, where you should have to depend upon interactions with others in order to attain your goals. In short, multiboxing allows a level of self-autonomy that should not exist in an MMO. And that is where the inherent unfairness of it arises. Paying more to blizzard to expedite/parallel work toward goals that would have to be done more slowly than others that pay less. RPGs work on a tabula rasa/unattached manner that abstracts what you are in the real world and allows people to work toward goals. Being able to dump more IRL currency or be free from worrying about currency, runs counter to that ideal version of an RPG.
This is a common response that a lot of people use who don’t understand what others are saying. There are the rules, and then there is the morality of an act. Something may be ok within the rules but morally it may be seen as wrong - or in this case cheating. That is, gaining an advantage over someone else. Many people see mboxing that way, and I tend to as well. I don’t call it cheating, but being able to defeat a particular objective due to having X number of extra sets of abilities available to you that another player does not have…well, it may not be cheating in the accepted sense, but its certainly an advantage.
Do you not understand how the game works, or is it that you do know how it works but are pretending you don’t in order to deliberately spread misinformation?
Multiboxing: you control your characters through the use of one or more keyboards. When you get up to get a drink, they stop playing and are waiting there for you when you get back.
Botting: You get up to get a drink and your character(s) continue playing while you are gone.
I don’t mind them at all personally. I get why some do, but I just disagree with them.
As to people saying it is cheating, nah you are factually wrong. If blizzard doesn’t say it’s cheating, it isn’t. It has been around long enough that if they wanted to deem it as such, they would have.
You can call it amoral, wrong, disreputable, or many other things but it is simply not breaking the rules and thus not cheating.
Perfectly. I also know perfectly that this game was meant to be played 1 character at a time. You have a train of bots /following the main character around while you spam their abilities through 1 keystroke. That is automation and botting. You are not physically playing that character. You are having to use a software program to assist you. Sorry your brain can’t comprehend that.
LOL. You know no such thing, because it’s never been true. Multiboxing has been in the game since vanilla.
You are just one of those players who make up your own personal list of “restrictions I follow and therefore it wouldn’t be fair to me if everybody else wasn’t forced to follow them too”.
Oh, god, we’re all guilty of using a 3rd party program called “Windows”, without which the game will not play.
Explain why multiboxers typically play casters. And more specifically casters that are capable of burst ST or on character aoe. Even before the existence of druid flight form?
Just look at classic with elemental shamans and how “well” they scale with spell power allowing for quick nuking of characters, especially when all focused by even a party of 5 elemental shamans.
Multiboxers don’t pick these classes because of the love of the class fantasy or idea of the class/spec, but rather because of the utility said specs provide. And those utilities when concentrated in the hands of a coordinated group, or even 1 person unfairly gives that group or multiboxer control over others in the game.
There are added complexities when it comes to boxxing a team of melee that has nothing to do with
and I don’t care about
I chose my characters because I need them to fill the class quota on the account, a self imposed desire.
If you google Multiboxing melee you’ll see lots of threads asking for help with playing melee because a melee team does a bunch of dumb stuff and there’s a few beginners mistakes you can make. I hate when I have to play my melee teams I leveled triple windwalkers Monday and triple Ret yesterday, ret wasn’t so bad because judgement and blade of justice and most mobs were dead
I was looking forward to quad demon hunters, can you imagine 4 eye beams! But no, it’s not as fun as you think because as you’ll learn from googling, your characters cameras won’t always be identical as you run around so when you go to beam they could beam in different directions Not totally different, like one to the North and one to the South but just enough so it’s not hitting the target You could of course adjust for this! but that’s part of the added complexity I mentioned earlier. There’s no adjusting on dot classes, press spell and cast gg, don’t need to be facing the target.
Where did you get the I was trying to send supply one way or the other? I think you’re confusing me with the quote from OP.
In terms of supply the idea is more to balance things out more on a server by server bases, and allow resource competition to exist in an MMO without bringing back the issue that multitap nodes were brought around to “fix” in the first place.
Except perhaps feeling that is wrong, for the reasons I stated.
Not everyone can afford it. Not everyone has the ability to do it. Not everyone has the option to earn enough gold to pay for one account, not to mention more than one.
So it ends up being what? — Pay to Sort of Win? It isn’t P2W within the exact meaning of the term, but its pay to have an advantage over someone who is, for any number of reasons of their own - unwilling or unable to do it. Its pay to have a troop of characters running behind you like a set of portable turrets, a whole bunch of extra dps or heals or whatever that the other players around you don’t have.
This game should be playable only on one character at a time. Sure, you want multiple accounts to use for various purposes that’s fine. But you shouldn’t be able to play them all at once. ESO is fine with multiple accounts, its just against their rules to mbox. I only wish Blizzard felt the same. It’s odd really, because Bethesda is usually fairly money-hungry yet they ban it. Blizzard doesn’t. I can only assume that money outranks principle.
No, mboxing isn’t against Blizzrd’s rules. And no, I don’t hate/despise/dislike people who do it. I simply feel, as a matter of personal viewpoint, that it’s wrong for this game.
They either do have the ability to do it and choose not to or they don’t and the only way they don’t is if they play so little that it’s irrelevant what a multiboxer does because they’ll be behind the majority of the playerbase anyways. I can easily make 100k a week playing a few hours a day without multiboxing.
https://www.dataforazeroth.com/calculator Just scroll down and see the gold gains
I assume Blizz can see more than any of us can see and from their vantage point it’s fine. I’ve heard of Blizz banning people for disrupting economies so if one of these boxxers who people say controls realm economies were to emerge Blizz would probably swat them.
Stop trying to defend your actions. You are very aware of the fact that your “style” of gameplay makes competition hard for other players, creates an unbalanced world pvp atmosphere, makes hostage of reagents and mats in the AH, creates an unfair advantage for quest objectives, and is overall sucky to be around.
I guess demeaning is the blue form of argument.
I leveled triple windwalkers Monday and triple Ret yesterday, ret wasn’t so bad because judgement and blade of justice and most mobs were dead
Not totally different, like one to the North and one to the South but just enough so it’s not hitting the target 
You could of course adjust for this! but that’s part of the added complexity I mentioned earlier. There’s no adjusting on dot classes, press spell and cast gg, don’t need to be facing the target.