Multiboxing positivity

When I multibox I literally log in my dudes, group them up, set follow, and press buttons.

If I press 1, my characters all receive a single 1. If I press 1 again, my characters all get another single 1. I’m still playing all the characters actively and am not afk.

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As long as the player is there manually telling the toons what to do. Yes multi-boxing is fine. A player manually writing a script so the toons play the game itself is not okay.

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Cheating is what Blizzard says it is. They say multiboxing is not cheating.

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Except it doesn’t. Like I’ve said above, friend of mine does boxing. And well … I don’t know how many times they forgot to issue commands to the boxed character.

“Ooops, I forgot to put them on /follow.” is a very common thing that happens.

So yes, its not automated in any fashion.

The closest you can get is almost like a macro.

IE “hit key 1, does X on character 1, and Y on character 2”. Which is still essentially a macro. It’s not automation.

Now, there are tools that are sometimes used for boxing that DO involve automation. Those are of course the ones that are cheating, because they ARE actual botting.

But movement and all that … I don’t know how many times they’d turn a corner and a boxed toon on /follow would get hung up on terrain.

So its not automatic, nor is it automated.

Ergo, its not cheating. Some may call it unethical, but by Blizzard’s rules, it IS permitted. So long as there is no actual automation.

Automation being “if it can’t do X, it does Y” or it does “X, then Y, then runs to Z”

THAT is botting. That’s not what most people are talking about when they multi-box.

It’s more of “one keystroke, sent to each ‘computer’, which does different things.”

IE computer 1 has number 1 do “ability on action bar, slot 1”, while computer 2 may have that set up as “ability on action bar, slot 3.”

This again, is not automation. Ergo, its legal.

Because each box only does things when it receives commands. Whether the commands are entered remotely or locally doesn’t matter. It’s still legal.

And hence why I say, “splitting hairs.”

Players are not able to group up with other players to complete content or to farm?

In all honesty the only difference between the two is that one player is paying for their group instead of getting it for free.

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By this logic. I can make a program to auto walk me to a dungeon by just pressing the w key once. To harvest every node automatically by clicking one node and it does the rest in the zone for me.

I told it what to do. The program is the one telling it where to go.

Typical people finding excuses to defend. I already gave my opinion about it. Moving on.

Your logic is not very good. I bet you failed discrete math.

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And have each of the players funnel the resources into one character?

I’m sorry but you’re not making a valid point.

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Not all multiboxers farm.

I play the auction house like a civilized person.

Actually you CANT. Because that would involve multiple key presses from one key press. Which is NOT permitted by how Blizzard does things. Macros used to be able to do that, but Blizzard changed things so that is no longer permitted.

One key stroke, one action. Even auto-run is a single keystroke and a single action.

But running to a dungeon would involve a multitude of keystrokes.

Boxing is “one keystroke, keystroke is copied ONCE to each ‘box’ and it responds based on its individual keybindings”

So each box is still following the one key stroke one action rule.

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If a keystroke is copied and repeated that isn’t 1 keystroke per 1 action. That is 1 keystroke for however many actions you need.

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YES! you could write a script and have the game play for you instead of you having to do anything and you would be in violation of the rules.

Multi-boxing requires the attention of the player to do things in the game.

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Ah. I see your personal definition of what is fair to you is one that should be applied to everyone in the game.

“I decided to gimp myself by not taking advantage of all the features available to me. It’s not fair to me that other people do use those features. They are cheating! Change the game so they have to play by the highly restricted ruleset I have created for my own gameplay.”

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I believe that is a dictionary definition. Also, that quote implies everyone can afford multiple subs or has the time to play for multiple hours to buy WoW tokens. Which is not true for everyone.

Not everybody can afford a sub. You have an unfair advantage over people who have no electricity. How dare you cheat them in that way!

Get real. It’s your own personal twisting of a definition to make it sound like you’re saying something meaningful when in fact it’s a deliberate lie on your part.

Where do you spooks come from? 4chan?

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Sure, not everyone has the time or money to multi-box. And? that’s a fact of life.

Some people spend money on streaming services, house payments, and car insurance. I don’t have any of those issues, so why shouldn’t I be able to use my money how I see fit? Instead of spending money of streaming, I spend that money on another account. People just have different priorities.

Those other people could drop a service or something so they would have that extra money in their pocket.

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https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/cheat

I give up. Because the people here have made decision and closed their mind to facts. Is it something many don’t like? Yes. Can it be used in unethical ways? Yes. Is it botting / automation?

Many people have made a decision that it is and are not listening to how things actually work.

Blizzard is the important factor here. They have made a decision that it is not Scripts (ergo automation) and thus it is not Botting. And thus it is permitted within the game.

If they decide Gnomes are to explode upon log in tomorrow, that too would be legal. Since it is their product, they are the ones who set the rules on what is legal and what is not.

We can argue over whether its ethical or not, but we cannot argue over whether it is legal or not. Blizzard is the one who makes that decision. I am now muting this thread as people have made a decision and are refusing to listen to the facts.

It’s a waste of my time, especially after all the facts have been presented, to continue to say anything in this thread.

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