Multiboxing is pay 2 win. Ban it now

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Yes which is why simmilar software is banable in every other blizzard game.

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Except that it can also be done with hardware and zero 3rd party software too. So it’s not automation or hacking.

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But multiboxing means more money for activision.

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They’re okay with it because its 15$ x how ever many accounts.

The second it starts affecting subs or money it would be broken/banned.

Unless of course a streamer was doing it because they can exploit and pretty much do w/e the want

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Bot can be done with hardware too (aka slave), let’s allow bots too?

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Y’all never played a real pay2win game and it shows

You know what’s pay2win? When you can buy a piece of gear that is specifically only available through buying, such as premium gear/cash gear in many older free2play mmos. When the game offers an item enhancement mechanic where you can roll to upgrade an item’s stats, but the item has a chance of breaking in case that roll fails, so they sell, for real money only, a consumable that protects your item against breaking. When the game has a premium account system that allows you to access areas of the game, skills, perks, etc, that would be otherwise unaccessible. Those are just some examples of actual pay2win things a lot of mmorpgs have. In short, they are pay to win not because they give the players an edge over non-paying players, but because they allow players to buy power that would be literally impossible to obtain without opening your wallet. No grouping, no farming could ever get you that stuff. THAT is pay2win.

Multiboxing isn’t.

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I expected a comment from a death knight like this. Thanks for letting me know to fear the multiboxer my guy. I mean not like they can still one shot me depending on class

Not like there is spell pushback or anything

Idiot

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There’s a lot of bad arguments here.

First, we know it’s not considered against ToS at this point. What OP is saying is that should be changed. Saying that blizzard allows it is not a counter-argument at all.

And to the rest of you goons claiming it doesn’t give you any advantage, I ask why do you think people are doing it? And to the smart fellow who said it’s not an advantage because a group of 5 people could do the same thing… well I have to laugh at you and your terrible logic. If one person can be nearly as powerful as 5 people by paying 5 times as much, how is that not pay to win?

To the people saying it’s not against ToS without automation, there’s multiple third party programs made to simplify multiboxing to a point that could be considered automation depending on the definition you are working with.

And finally, it could easily be considered against the ToS because the ToS says cheating is playing the game in any way that blizzard did not intend. Seeing as how there are no in-game tools to help multi-box, there’s no reason to assume they wanted you to play this way.

This is the same company that sells power levels and gold today. It’s pretty clear why they allow multi-boxing. There’s no good reason.

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Considering that it’s such a tiny fraction of the overall population that can successfully multibox, it’s certainly not going to effect the total overall number of subs.

Only, this isn’t botting. Botting is when you’re not at your keyboard. Let’s try and keep on topic yes?

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in 15 years of playing, i can count on two hands the amount of times ive ever even seen a multiboxer.

do you want to know how many times its been a problem?

zero. ur bad.

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Ive seen 3 multi boxers today alone

Maybe you’re not paying attention?

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“There’s no such thing as degrees, it’s only insanely p2w or not at all p2w.”

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Regardless of whether it’s pay-to-win or not, multiboxing isn’t going anywhere. It was here during Vanilla so it’s going to be here during Classic.

You are never, ever, ever going to convince Blizzard to disallow it. Not only does it add to the authenticity, it makes them more money. So you may as well give up now.

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I’ve never seen a multiboxer that didn’t use 3rd party software to have all their characters move together, cast at the same time, etc.

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I understand multiboxing isn’t going away probably ever, but lets not pretend that multi boxing isn’t a sizeable advantage over regular players. If it wasn’t, there would be no need to multibox in the first place.

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Imagine multiboxing with third party software and trying to argue it’s not cheating KEKW. Imagine I did this is CSGO and I ran around with 3 dudes with a program orchestrating controls and one tapped everything

A LOT of people are using second accounts to run bank and AH alts, keeping an account logged in a major city at all times (especially to compete with with automated AH users). These players have an obvious advantage not needing to take the time to goto cities on mains. Also clogging up valuable space on servers, almost positive blizzard taking action on this would free up queues. This isn’t just a P2W/Cheating problem anymore, it’s literally disrupting servers.

Should be only allowing one account logged in per-PC.

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3 whole multiboxers!! WoW!!

So you’d agree that 3 compared to the thousands, if not millions of players is a tiny fraction :wink:

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I am not a fan myself. I still don’t understand how software that allows you to control multiple characters with the same keyboard fits into Blizzard’s “one keystroke for one action” standard that they use to determine what is and what is not against the TOS. If I press one keystroke and multiple characters perform multiple actions, how is that different from botting? To me, they are the same thing but unfortunately I do not get to make the decisions on this matter.

However Blizzard, (most likely due to the extra subs they get from it) has stated they are OK with multi-boxing and are quite willing to look the other way and have done so for 15 years now.

Personally, I feel sorry for the multi-boxers. I do not consider myself gregarious by any means but even I can make some friends and acquaintances in an MMORPG. These people can only play with themselves and that must be a really lonely and pathetic existence to me.

While I would love to see it banned in Classic, I believe their money speaks much more loudly to Blizzard than any amount of forum posts will. :slight_smile:

Thanks.

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This is border-line botting, you’re simulating living people playing the game. While probably not so critical in classic, in retail its just 30 times the loot for using 3-rd party software, and you don’t even have to pay the sub as this loot pays for tokens.

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That’s silly. When have you entered a room on classic and had access to thousands, if not millions of players?