There seems to be a deep devide in the community.
Those that encounter it and hate it.
And
Those that are oblivious and bury their head in the sand. Or Do it themselves and love it.
2 sides
There seems to be a deep devide in the community.
Those that encounter it and hate it.
And
Those that are oblivious and bury their head in the sand. Or Do it themselves and love it.
2 sides
I see them quite frequently in Nazjatar. I tried to farm in Nazjatar a few days ago and came across 3 MBs. I followed one to see if I could just leech off him and after a few minutes of not finding any nodes, he server hopped. All 5 vanished midflight. So I flew around a bit thinking theyâd respawn and Iâd get some nodes when I came across yet another 5 man team of druids with different names from the first group. Theyâre usually named something stupid like âHerbyfamroneâ, Herbyfarmrtwo", âHerbyfarmrthreeâ, etc.
Yes, you have your basic account for 15 dollars a month, then you have your gold account for 75 a month which has all the power in the game. More of a class system with an upper and lower class. Interesting.
The Irish are out of control!
lmao sled team
U can thank the wow token for the influx of multiboxers now that the lot of them donât have to pay real money per acc , they can legit just farm so much gold & be able to afford all their accounts and more.
Thatâs logic you want automated which is the essence of botting.
Understand there is a huge difference between /castsequence x, y, z and what youâre asking for.
Do you believe that a robot that assembles a hamburger whenever you push a button is automation?
Yes, because itâs programmed to make a subset of decisions based on its current situation. Like a toaster may have a thermostat and a control board to maintain an appropriate temperature to cook bread.
Hereâs the thing. The robot is making your hamburger for you. You arenât making it. When you ask for a macro to know you have a buff before casting youâre asking that macro to make a decision for you.
The dev team has given us /castsequence as an olive branch to allow us to consolidate some of the typically mundane things like spenders and generators where you 99-100% of the time have them follow each other. Itâs made to be stupid to limit what someone might do with it. Gnomesequencer is just an extension of that idea allowing for more castsequence macros to be on a single button. If you follow any of the lazymacro stuff youâd see that though their aim is typically to get down to a single button their macros are full of modifiers. So itâs never actually one button and they have to actually think about when to alt, shift, ctrl, etc.
Thatâs the nuance.
Tell me why my analogy of multiboxing being the same as a hamburger making robot is incorrect. I control my one toon and the third party software is controlling the other toons. If you turn the software off, the other toons donât move. The software is automating all the normal actions I would have to do manually in order to control all the other toons, just like if I were to make a hamburger myself I would actually have to move my arms and eyes.
Ok, letâs go over the difference again.
The hamburger making robot would need all the following to be any good at what it does:
Multiboxing software has nothing in it that makes decisions for you. Nada, zip, zilch. It is designed as an extension to the /castsequence logic. 99% of the time you will be simply passing a keystroke to the game client so that it does what it would ordinarily do.
When you send a keystroke to one client you can choose to send it to all of the other clients. Thatâs as dumb as it gets. It doesnât know whatâs going on and whether or not the keystroke would be positive or negative.
The equivalent here would be a toaster with no thermostat that just cooks until the bread catches fire or it doesnât cook at all.
This is the lamest claim of all, usually used by people who are bumping each othersâ forum alts threads to make it appear there are concerned âplayersâ, when actually itâs just a disinformation campaign.
Thereâre no decision-making capabilities required for a hamburger making robot. It simply follows a series of commands, just like the multi-botter software. I click a key for my toon to move and the software replicates the command to the other toons, allowing me not to have to do it. If an order comes in to the hamburger robot, it assembles the burger. When it finishes, it waits for the next order to come and repeats, just like the multiboxing software is constantly waiting for the signal from my keyboard.
I just explained to you the difference.
So no, youâre wrong here.
A thermostat is designed to report the actual temperature back to the control board.
If it didnât have a tstat in it the control board would have no idea how warm the unit actually is. So it would either not have enough power or too much.
It is literally controlling the power to the coils based on the feedback from the thermostat. Thatâs what youâre asking for in your macro and why you fundamentally misunderstand multiboxing.
Smarter people have figured this out for you.
Automation or not, I think they should ban it. I got 2 real id friends that multibox, and every time they log on I get like 10 names of the same person on my real id list, very annoying.
Can you provide an example, not wow related, where something is completely sanctioned in its context, but still considered cheating? (sports maybe?)
could you explain what this hamburger robot looks like, and how it works?
Do I press a button and it takes a bun, opens it, toasts it, puts a patty on the grill, flips it, moves it to the now toasted bun, wraps it, and gives it to you?
do you press a button, and an arm moves for the duration of time you press the button? then you press another button for a short duration, and the arm rotates for the same time. a third button that extends the arm, yet a fourth button that tells the arm to close its claw or hand or what not (tongs?), the third button again that pulls back the arm, first button again that moves the held patty over the grill.
A 5th button that opens the tongs and drops the patty.
A non button reminder that the patty needs to be flipped.
(there are about 40 more steps for completing the burger)
Which one is this hamburger robot that you claim defends your point?
You can look on youtube and see them. It really doesnât matter for the analogy. You can substitute a vending machine in itâs place if you like. The point Iâm making is that both are forms of automation. These devsâ position appears to be that the player is controlling the toons, but itâs the software thatâs controlling the toons, not the player. The player is only controlling his toon.
Paying more than $15 a month for this is its own punishment. I mean, even if they can afford it, theyâre still never going to get the full valueâs worth as they have the nervous system of one person and can only focus on so many things at a time.
It matters for the Analogy, because you clearly canât make a comparison that actually works. since you see everything as automation, you will always represent this issue wrong.
MB is like a radio. you tune the radio to the channel you want to listen to, and if the station is playing, you get the music. and when the station stops, so does the music that you were listening to.
You cant just point at everything and declare âAUTOMATION, because I said so.â
You dont control your character when you move a mouse and press keys on a keyboard. those tool send signals to your computer that the computer has to process and then depending on how your computer is set up, will create new signals to send in the direction of the internet for your toon. And guess what, it goes through some more hoops before you toon moves. Software makes a single character move⌠Guess thats automation by your definition.
Iâll repeat, by your argument, every single player of wow is automation, a thus a bot.
I went to a nazjatar to farm and saw a multiboxer that was 3 the first week, 9 the last week, and is NOW 26 BOXING (YES, 26 boxing), all different realms, all different names, all boomies with synced attacks one shotting people with 26 cast dumps of Crucibles of flame gibbing anyone who tries to disrupt them.
They fly and deplete everything on the server and farm basically 24/7. If theyâre a bot i donât know, but everything is perfectly synced and theyâre set to automatically dump damage, they donât move in combat and automatically all play boomkin to attack anything within a 40 yard range that attacks any of them.
When they fly and go through a zone, EVERY SINGLE NODE is depleted. farming individually for Zinâathid is near impossible. They deplete servers, and when theyâre done, they switch to a different alt and deplete another server. Not only are multiboxers depleting entire servers, but theyâre able to farm different entire shards for each toon after theyâre done depleting the last, offering a unreplacable and broken unfair gameplay advantage