Like you have been doing?
Like conveniently leaving out the “per client”
Like you have been doing?
Like conveniently leaving out the “per client”
I understand that 100%. However in manufacturing and many other parts of life that distinction does not matter. If a single person is telling the machine to pick up 40 objects in a single keystroke the process is still considered automation.
This makes no sense. Something that’s automated doesn’t need a pilot, controller, operator, etc.
In no way did I insult you. I was merely responding to your statement that
You stated that it moves itself and does not require an external source. In my response I stated that the car does not move itself and still requires an external source yet is still considered an automobile.
“ Because the car moves itself? That does not happen. It requires a few basic inputs such as putting in the key, gas, electricity, take it off park and into drive, put your foot onto the gas or break, etc. in order to get all the gears working and moving in one direction. Multiboxing is like that but much easier. Only one command to ordee 40 clients to do something. Multiplying the effective action of 1 click into 40 actions.”
It’s like saying that an electric screwdriver “automates” removing a screw. He’s conflating “force multiplier” with “automation”.
One keystroke should not be applied to multiple characters at the same time.
Automated processes can definitely use human inputs. Human inputs can definitely active automated processes. Especially if there is a specialized program to help you do that across a platoons worth of wow clients
It’s 1 input 1 output per client.
A distinction that needs to be changed and is far overdue. I never said that its against the tos just that it should be
You guys can argue the semantics as much as you want. The only reason it isn’t a bannable offense is because the player in question is paying for twelve subscriptions. It’s as simple as that.
Seems like an entirely disproportionate response to try and get rid of multiboxing when it’s disputed it’s even a real major issue at all. It’s seems multiboxers impact is mostly blown out of proportions.
If there are legitimate problems though, they can be dealt with without fundamentally changing the Tos and banning something that’s been around since the games inception.
Activision-Blizzard earns billions of dollars a year. Multiboxers are a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of that. They really could ban them tomorrow and it wouldn’t even show up on their bottom line.
This doesn’t make any sense either. Bots, people that do carries for cash and people that get banned for bad behavior all pay for subscriptions too.
We shall see. I do not consider it a disproportionate response. I consider it a long due response. Regardless I respect all multiboxers for trying to be civil. I respectfully disagree with the mb communities conclusions here.
If I was a multibillionaire and someone said to me “you just want my $179” I’d probably be in the news for laughing in someones face
Reason number #78 why I don’t like pvp.
There was a movie in the 1950s that spoke about automation before it was a popular word. This is how they defined it.
“Continuous automatic production. Where automatic machines are integrated with transfer devices equipped and with controls To perform a series of continuous automatic operations.”
This movie was produced by General Motors and even showed people clicking buttons to control the automation process.
That is no different than what we have today with multiboxers. They machines automatically work via the transfer device (ie the multiboxing program) and the player uses the control (one keyboard) to impact as many as 40 clients (or whatever the limit is I dont multibox).
They even discussed layers of automation from semi auto to fully auto and then continuous automatic production. So yes multiboxing is automation. Because it copies the input of one press across multiple clients.
You are essentially arguing that everyone who plays this game is automating because everyone presses buttons.
Would you have felt better if it was 12 individual people attacking you?
That is not my argument at all. I have been very clear in defining automation (in the context of multiboxers) as a process that takes a single instruction and duplicates it across multiple wow clients in a single key stroke creating up to 40 click actions for a single human click.
It does not matter if the instruction set is different or just one action. The fact is that one click is put into a program that then automatically transfers it or “broadcasts it” to another series of programs to cause multiple programs to follow that key command.
If I were to buy an application on my phone that would connect all the lights in my house to the phone and let me turn them all on or off at a click of a button i would be considered as using automation to turn on all my lights.
This is because I am not just clicking one button. In that one button click the computer is checking every light and telling them all to turn on and then confirming they are on then giving me the real time result. In no world would I say that I flicked 40 lights with no automation because it doesnt make sense.
Below is a cnet article where they talk about automating their lightbulbs but they would still require an alexsa amazon adapter to control the automation. Because in the real world we understand that even if its just one action, the act of multiplying and duplicating that action via an automatic process is considered automation.
cnet (DOT) com/news/automating-each-and-every-light-in-the-cnet-smart-home/
This is a widely held view that only blizzard does not recognize likely for profit