No, I sure didn’t. But I will suggest, based on your comment, that you rarely see a boxer with 20+ accounts in the first place. I’d say it’s safe to say that you’ve probably never even seen a boxer with 20+ accounts and if you have it’s been a one time time thing. 20+ accounts is pretty rare in this boxing community. I have 10 active accounts, add up how much I spend each month in gold to fund those accounts… then double it. It’s much harder to fund 20 accounts than 10 due to node tapping rules. I’d also say it’s safe to say that you aren’t aware of how farming works with boxing since you used the number 20. lol
responding to your argument there…its not a Nice try
No, I sure didn’t.
It sounds exactly like that’s what you are suggesting.
I have 10 active accounts, add up how much I spend each month in gold to fund those accounts…
Just because you fund all of them doesn’t mean others will, some of them use 10 accounts to fund 1 character to gain advantage. some of them just like to insta shot people in WPVP. The point is, Multiboxing is P2W and it’s an exploit of the game, people abuse it. So long as it can be abused it should not be allowed. It doesn’t matter what YOU do with multibox, because you are just one person, you can be that rare unicorn that only just does it for fun, but as long as its exploitable, it should not be allowed.
some of them use 10 accounts to fund 1 character to gain advantage.
How do these players give one of their characters an advantage?
The point is, Multiboxing is P2W and it’s an exploit of the game, people abuse it.
You don’t get to define what is and isn’t an exploit, Blizzard does.
So long as it can be abused it should not be allowed.
it cannot be “abused” since it’s allowed. That’s like me claiming that you are abusing the heroic dungeon LFD queue tool.
responding to your argument there…its not a Nice try
I don’t have to try, you don’t have a logical argument in this conversation.
How do these players give one of their characters an advantage?
Uh, Let me guess, funneling gold earned by 10 chars simultaneously to 1 char?
You don’t get to define what is and isn’t an exploit, Blizzard does.
No Blizzard doesn’t get to define the meaning of the word exploit, they can say it’s not an exploit within their game, It’s their rules, but it doesn’t mean it’s not an exploit in the eyes of the players.
it cannot be “abused” since it’s allowed. That’s like me claiming that you are abusing the heroic dungeon LFD queue tool.
Then why did they get rid follow for BG? its because boxxers abuse it, Blizz knows it can be abused that’s why its actively introducing measures to make your lives harder as a boxer, what we are on the forums is that there are still plenty of abuse happening (node farming, AH flush, WPVP) that Blizzard should remove the mechanic as a whole.
Uh, Let me guess, funneling gold earned by 10 chars simultaneously to 1 char?
How does gold funneled by 10 characters give them an advantage. There are no advantage potions for sale anywhere, so I’m curious.
No Blizzard doesn’t get to define the meaning of exploit, they can say it’s not within their game, It’s their rules, but it doesn’t mean it’s not an exploit in the eyes of the players.
Our opinions don’t matter, we don’t make the rules. It’s not an exploit here.
Then why did they get rid follow for BG? its because boxxers abuse it
Nope. That was actually because of botters, not boxers.
The more you know.
How does gold funneled by 10 characters give them an advantage. There are no advantage potions for sale anywhere, so I’m curious.
Wow you think more gold is not an advantage? Let’s see, early game, you are on ilvl 400, I am a multiboxer, i earned 10x the gold you did, I bought 475 gear, trashes you in pvp, pve, anything you can think of. That’s not advantageous enough for you?
Nope. That was actually because of botters, not boxers.
I suggest you learn to read, especially the second paragraph about multboxxing.
I suggest you learn to read, especially the second paragraph about multboxxing.
Umm, you might wanna learn to read. Reread that part about boxing. It WAS NOT removed due to boxing, that was just a side effect. looool
Wow you think more gold is not an advantage? Let’s see, early game, you are on ilvl 400, I am a multiboxer, i earned 10x the gold you did, I bought 475 gear, trashes you in pvp, pve, anything you can think of. That’s not advantageous enough for you?
Gear doesn’t buy skill. If you’re bad you’re bad, that gear won’t carry you through PvP or mechanics, which is why many players hate raider.io. They think their ilvl means they should be able to chill in higher content than they belong in.
Umm, you might wanna learn to read. Reread that part about boxing. looool
“We were ok with it also resulting in multiboxing in multiboxing in battlegrounds also going away due to the poor experience it can create for others.”
“as the effect of multiboxers in those situations is considered unfavorable by many.”
Not sure which part is so hard to understand for you.
Gear doesn’t buy skill. If you’re bad you’re bad, that gear won’t carry you through PvP or mechanics, which is why many players hate raider. io. They think their ilvl means they should be able to chill in higher content than they belong in.
It doesn’t matter what your skill level is, an advantage is an advantage, its not a guaranteed win, even if I have low skill level, the facts are, 475 ilvl gives me an advantage against you vs 400 ilvl, whether I win or not is another story, the advantage is there regardless.
It doesn’t matter what your skill level is, an advantage is an advantage, its not a guaranteed win, even if I have low skill level, the facts are, 475 ilvl gives me an advantage against you vs 400 ilvl, whether I win or not is another story, the advantage is there regardless.
Do players that buy tokens also partake in exploits? Or is that different?
“We were ok with it also resulting in multiboxing in multiboxing in battlegrounds also going away due to the poor experience it can create for others.”
k, so it was a side effect. You first claimed it was removed due to boxers, I proved you wrong. Give it up. lol
Do players that buy tokens also partake in exploits? Or is that different?
No tokens are also P2W, I’ve made that very clear in my previous posts. Essentially WoW is a P2W game since the introduction of Tokens, except for some completely skill locked contents. It’s sad but it’s not going to go away, since that’s how Blizzard earns money now.
k, so it was a side effect. You first claimed it was removed due to boxers, I proved you wrong. Give it up. lol
Does it matter? If Blizzard really thinks boxing is fair then It would have introduced some mechanic to save boxing, the fact that they acknowledge the community’s dismay at boxing shows they know that it’s exploitable, they kept it due to greed not anything else.
Does it matter?
It does matter, especially when you said:
Then why did they get rid follow for BG? its because boxxers abuse it, Blizz knows it can be abused that’s why its actively introducing measures to make your lives harder as a boxer
I gave you proof that you’re 100% wrong and you still cannot accept it.
I’m not trying to be rude but I am not going back and forth with someone like you, it’s simply not worth my time. We’ll get nowhere in our discussions since you cannot accept personal responsibility for admitting when you’re wrong and owning it. We are on two different levels.
We are on two different levels.
We are indeed, since you can’t find a valid argument to prove boxing is not a problem and not P2W. goodbye is really the only thing you can say.
I cant believe multiboxers pay to group up with broke undergeared scrubs
Another great day of World of Warcraft and I would like to thank my fellow multi boxers for keeping the price gouging botter / scam artists on the AH in check. Thank you Blizzard for allowing me the privledge of multi boxing since 2005.
I appreciate feeling appreciated! Thanks Glenervine!
Since multiboxers are such a small player base, what if they made a server specifically for multiboxers?
Well, if I were Blizzard I wouldn’t do that because then
“Why do multiboxers get their own server?”
“I want a server just for x”
this is why it’s so lame wow multiboxers want to pay to avoid the aspect of the game is an mmo
But I have friends
One of them is a guild of paladins, the other is DHs I believe.
Ooof, melee boxxers, they are masochists lol.
There’s PVP servers
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There’s RP-PVP servers.
Not anymore bro, not anymore
why not give them their own world where multiboxers can fight against other multiboxers?
I don’t wpvp
without flaw, without question, without variable
Yeah you tell that to my hunters facing in the wrong direction when I do a huge pull in a dungeon and almost die because they are having a smoke break
No group consisting of multiple individuals can be as precise or as immediate.
But they can coordinate and flank whereas a multiboxxer can’t.
The point is, Multiboxing is P2W
Just started multiboxing in June, what did I win?!
and it’s an exploit of the game,
If it was an exploit Blizz would have banned it 16 years ago
but it doesn’t mean it’s not an exploit in the eyes of the players.
That’s unfortunate those players feel that way.
“We were ok with it also resulting in multiboxing in multiboxing in battlegrounds also going away due to the poor experience it can create for others.”
“as the effect of multiboxers in those situations is considered unfavorable by many.”
Not sure which part is so hard to understand for you.
That means “We know it’ll affect multiboxers too and are ok with that” So they didn’t avoid doing it just to avoid hurting multiboxing. Doesn’t mean they also did it because of multiboxing.
We are indeed, since you can’t find a valid argument to prove boxing is not a problem and not P2W.
I’ve yet to see anyone show boxing is a problem or p2w
I’ve yet to see anyone show boxing is a problem or p2w
To be fair, I’ve seen plenty of situations where it’s a “problem” however, unless the company feels its a problem enough to act upon, it will remain overlooked.
An example I’ve given before is the first amendment protecting photographers. I can legally stand on the sidewalk in front of your house and point a camera into your windows. The first amendment protects me from you doing anything about it. People do stuff like that all the time. It’s a problem but unfortunately, a protected problem.
And as far as P2W, I understand their rationale for it. They may be technically correct but so what? If some people want to P2W, let them. People with more money always come out ahead in the world.
I played MTG for 25 years. The same rich people were always the ones who won the vintage tournaments because they’re able to bring a deck worth over $50000.
Hey guys just wanted to let you know I am leveling a team of druids right now!
Wow you think more gold is not an advantage? Let’s see, early game, you are on ilvl 400, I am a multiboxer, i earned 10x the gold you did, I bought 475 gear, trashes you in pvp, pve, anything you can think of. That’s not advantageous enough for you?
This has already been debunked, thoroughly. Just having a couple 475 pieces (poorly optimized most likely) won’t activate god-mode.