the ones we KNEW of, keep in mind that turalyon was off planet fighting demons for about 1,000 years. also tirion “defeated” arthas and shattered frostmourne so that’s something of an accomplishment.
revised list: 1. warlocks (can kill just about anything including demon hunters as well as has several similar abilities to them, not to mention particularly powerful locks can have high void entities as body guards)
2. demon hunters (some of them have demonic souls and thus require a lock to be put down permanently)
3. deathknight/priest and or paladin/mage (death knights have several useful abilities for ending a fight quickly with little resistance, paladins and priests can even combat/smite undead and spirits and were designed to do so, and mages are in this category by sheer power/versatility of their abilities)
4. druids/shamans (the second best closest thing to being able to instantly force choke an opponent, flash fry their bodies and souls, or teleport them into certain death is being able to weaponize the environment around you as a nearly endless renewable weapon of mass destruction am i right?)
5. hunters/warriors/rogues (stealth for hunters and rogues isn’t too handy when spectral sight and other abilities can counter it, and from a lore and game play perspective charging a mage or any other ranged combatant in body armor with an axe isn’t gonna do a warrior much good when he’s a sheep, fried by lightning/had his soul burned away by the light, turned into mulch etc.).
Varian got did the most dirty. He didnt even get to kill garry to show he was the nore powerful warrior.
they absolutely are.
technically while a “warden” is is not explicitly stated in any source to be any particular class (provided we’re talking the maiev night-elven wardens), they are deemed “assassins” and i believe maiev herself is often called a “rogue” in supplemental lore sources like hearth stone (despite originally being a priestess of elune). spell breakers on the other hand are indeed classified as warriors of an elite troupe in warcraft lore both from war craft III and WoW. you’re both about half correct, Wardens aren’t warriors but spell-breaker blood elves are.
I see spell breaker more as battle mage rather than warrior.
It would be interesing if blizz add it as a class. It could have it’s own niche
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I’d place Spellbreakers at C tier, but they’re not at all our Prot, Fury, or Arms Warriors who I’d still place in D and F tier. Spellbreakers, like Rogues, are niche but potentially strong within their niche.
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Broxigar, a warrior, is the only person to ever wound Sargeras, so get out of here with your C tier ranking of warriors in the lore.
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Just because sargeras was afk
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Rexxar bumps up hunter lore.
Varian Wrynn bumps up warriors.
Anduin Wrynn bumps up priest healer.
i think mage then warlock.
I’m really confused by people’s overrating of warlocks and underrating of light-wielding classes (paladin and priest).
Is it canon that the light is weaker than shadow or fel? Isn’t the light a Naaru thing? I’m still not sure wtf happened in Legion…
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This is just headcanon on my part, but the fel is powered by sacrifice. So, by causing pain and destruction, you’re multiplying fel energy. For the destro spec through MoP and WoD, we had the Burning Embers mechanic which symbolized it: The warlock became a conduit for these chaotic energies he absorbed during the fight, and originally, as designed by Xelnath, pooling burning embers would incur some self-damaging debuffs. Of course, the idea of the warlock blowing himself up was scrapped in the end, but fel energy is a thing that if not wielded carefully, it cascades and drags the wielder into corruption, or obliteration.
It is not that the Light is weaker, but, from my understanding throughout Legion, it is associated with order and belief, while the void is chaos and dissonance. I assume the greater your conviction in the Light, the greater your power is, and that is why the Scarlet Crusade remained for so long, even if fighting a war on all fronts.
Monk with stormbrew is #1.
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Im pretty sure someone named king terenas(not sure of name) has harmed sargeras as well.
I believe its in the veangeance dh artifact quest line or something.
But i think he is a warrior as well.
Well then I think the Light should be at least as strong, IMO stronger. What good is “power” if it destroys its user? I would think that rational beings are more capable of having faith in order than “conviction” about chaos.
Faith is tested always. Throughout the history of Warcraft, you see a lot of faithful characters slowly lose it. Arthas himself is a good example, and then there is Uther. I use these two because, as I think their power comes from faith in the Light, the circumstances of their fall easily fit in the narrative of loss of faith.
Now, the greed - or gluttony - for fel power is sustained by the vice itself. One has a bit, yearns for more, consumes more, and the nostalgia effect kicks in. Then, there is insanity for the void users, as we see with Cho’gall, and Benedictus.
S tier - Mages, Warlocks, Demon Hunters,
A tier - Rogue (Subtlety), Priest (Shadow)
B tier - Priests (Holy & Discipline) , Paladins, Druids, Shaman, Death Knights (Frost & Unholy)
C tier - Monk, Death Knight (Blood)
D tier - Hunter, Rogue (Assassination & Outlaw)
F tier - Warrior
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YO, Monks defeated the Mogu empire!
I’m not saying they’re more powerful than mages, locks, DKs or DH, but they’re not entirely useless.
Alright and while impressive, what ELSE have the mogu empire fought that we can compare to, Old gods, Ragnaros the firelord, etc? We know they’re somewhere between able to playfully hold off two armored horde and alliance grunts and lose to a Garrosh, so that puts them as somewhere between Grunt and shaman tier.
That’s a really big, biig line. PVE yeah monks are fricking brutal for migration but lorewise they just seem like celestial spirits enhanced kung fu pandas in a world of death, destruction, maiming, and 2 feet high gnomish midgets that can suplex a level 3 tauren to the moon.