More Grimoire info

The one person who has the book was kind enough to post more stuff from the book.

Takeaways:

  • spirit/decay affect a soul’s anima
  • Anyone who practices “low magics” such as Shamanism are inherently unreliable, like the magic itself (this makes me uniquely angry as I feel it’s a dev response to Horde criticism of the exclusion of shamanism from this expansion)
  • Snake symbol is a symbol of the First Ones
  • Broker dude found the Arbiter was once not so benevolent (I think this implies that Zovaal’s original title was The Arbiter maybe, Zovaal the Arbiter)
  • It’s unclear why the Arbiter was chosen (I think which lends itself to “when” the Arbiter was chosen)
  • Fatescribes can alter the destinies of mortal (I think this implies the magic of Fate is part of Death, much like it is in Greek/Norse/African/most mythologies)
  • Winter Queen favors Cenarius, treating him like family
  • Azerothians are uniquely important
  • A world from Velen’s vision was mentioned again: The Light-Bearers of Fanlin’Deskor, also Paladins are again “tied” to Bastion (as examples of souls devoted to service and duty)
  • Soulbinding is “a process that allows no deception between bondmates”; you cannot lie to a soulbind
  • Domination is a language and force, invented by the Primus (who also, I remind, invented Necromancy)
  • Mortal runeforging (e.g. Death Knights) use the runes invented by the Primus
  • Maldraxxus rune magic (which is DK rune magic) is different from Domination rune magic (which is stronger), Domination exists to suppress the other
  • “The Primus used the language of Domination to brand the sentence of the Eternal Ones onto his brother’s flesh”, so the Primus gave him his scars lol
  • The Vessels of Domination = Helm of Domination + Frostmourne
  • The book affirms Uther’s soul was split into three: two halves + a shard
  • Sylvanas is speculated by the broker to be the first Maw Walker (which means she is also uniquely tied to Azeroth’s world soul?)
  • The Brokers all left their home realm to seek the First Ones; the centers of knowledge mentioned are Oribos, Korthia, Baraneth, Nirem-Ahn, and others
  • Nirem-Ahn has “singing stones” and the First Ones made all realities
  • There is a Great Pendulum between Life and Death, and “lesser ones” between Light/Shadow and Order/Disorder
  • First Ones made Pantheon to embody their influences
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Pretty cool honestly. I really hope they dont reveal too much more about the first ones. Keep them ambiguous and mysterious. But that’s wishful thinking.

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This is clearly just Brokers demonstrating how little they understand. I think Blizzard is just leaning into the perspective narrative, and purposefully making this Broker almost comically blind in his ignorance. It’s fun; cute.

Blizzard is saying “look, LOOK, this Broker is soo dumb, and we’re doing this on purpose so that people will PLEASE not take some of his more opinionated statements as fact.”

They’re begging us to not be over-analyzing crazies. Let’s listen.

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I know but I was expecting Shamanism to be given a nod, given a big part of in-game religious shamanism of various races is “communing with the dead” (e.g. Tauren, Orcs, Kul Tirans, Trolls, Dwarves, Draenei, etc.)

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There’s room for this yet. Shaman communicate with the dead often, so Spirit somehow interacts with Shaman and the souls of people who haven’t moved into the Shadowlands. Sounds like they’re setting up some lore to retroactively explain some old-Orcish lore using Spirit.

EDIT: and also, I’ll make a point to take none of this seriously until I see the text myself. A lot of people here say totally wrong stuff and interpret things mega-wrong, so who’s to say this person has a legit interpretation?

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All their other posts have been fair and accurate, and usually posts screenshots when have proven such when asked.

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Has shamanism even been explained that thoroughly? Honestly the less we know of it, the better, probably.

Even still, the book pomps up Alliance favorites, (EG: Druidism/Cenarius, Paladins/Lightbearers) and tears the Horde down.

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Which of course questions the First Ones’ benevolence(“There is only Order and Obedience! You will do as you are told!”).

Zovaal was appointed because he embodied the Order that the First Ones loved. The First Ones are quickly becoming more and more suspicious by the minute!

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After running Tazavesh a few times I’ve decided that Blizzard should just delete the rest of WoW and turn it into World of Brokercraft where you travel the spooky cosmos on a ship full of those cute little cat things.

Much better.

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Yven, Zovaal says that the first ones’ design was flawed specifically because everything isn’t mind controlled.

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More Night Elf bias. I wonder how she feels about the Orcs who killed him.

Hopefully this is the case - I was afraid General Draven might be a Dreadlord in disguise. This might mean our Soulbinds are safe. Phew!

Reading that… it almost looks like a code. It makes me wonder if there is some reason they went with :

Zovaal… Z… Arbiter…A…

It just looks like a beginning and an end, of sorts. From A to Z then back to A…

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And you think the First Ones wouldn’t agree with Zovaal? For all we know the First Ones will attempt the same thing as he is doing at the moment!

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There’s no evidence to suggest they would, because they didn’t.

but it shoots down my Lady Moonberry Is Working With The Dreadlord Theory :frowning: lol

I’m already tired for the Lifelands expansion tbh

The entire xpac will be centered on Elune and she will just harass the Horde races endlessly

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“Low magic”? Alright someone needs a face full of lava right now.

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It’s just amusing they chose to make evident this book is “biased” by crapping on the Horde races instead of the Alliance races

Like why are Paladins the key example of “loyalty” suited for Bastion and not Tauren Warbraves?

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I mean bastion is as close to an Alliance paradise as one can possibly concieve of. Heck, their whole “service” angle fits well.

Having said that I am getting annoyed at this broker and now kinda wishes he ends up a boss we can beat the crap out of him.

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Preemptively disappointed for the future tbh

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So the titans are like, big, right? So the First Ones must be HUGE. Like celestials from Marvel comics. Even titans aren’t that big. IDK why I care about their size, it’s just interesting. Perhaps because I’m wondering what kind of power scaling they have.