dev time spent really well.
not.
classic+ when
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Couple years probably, which is why we will most likely get WoD classic. Moreover it will probably not be what most people want anyway as what people want of Classic+ is not the same.
Some people want basically Vanilla with more content, some want something closer to SoD which is the same world but with new classes/designs/content and personally I want something closer to wotlk+ as I donât think you can please purist anyway and theyâll always prefer vanilla so might as well try to make it interesting enough for everyone by having classes with decent rotations, some customization, decent raids with at least 2 difficulties and some form of flying but sure keep it on the original continents only.
If theyâre willing to do add an itteration of mythic dungeons to mop, maybe they can go all out and add the missing wod phaseâŚ
/cope
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Fixing WoD I think could go a long way if they want to do Legion. Doesnât need too much to be fair make it so apexis dailies gear is something relevant. Add some new dungeons between phases and add shattrah raid (Even if itâs a smaller 3-5 bosses raid) and I think youâd make it already closer to a full expansion and what people would have liked more.
Arguably I would probably remove the auction house from the garrison, remove the garden/mine and probably either heavy nerf the mission table or straight remove it. But thatâs just me throwing ideas.
Can you imagine how good WoD would be if they added all of the cut content? Adding major cities and all the class tmogs, like quivers? Oh what could have been :\
we should not be wasting previous dev time fixing one of the worst expansions in the game so that the 25 people still remaining when WoD would launch can have fun.
blizzard has let this classic series extend out too long and i wonder if its because they legitimately feel bad for all of the time invested in classic 2019 characters until now. they shouldâve ended this with a perma wrath realm and then restarted a new set of servers at classic again and repeat.
classic WoD come on lmfao.
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Even if you disagree with progression servers going further, numbers donât lie. A good amount of people have kept playing and with no further SoD patchs and classic+ being most likely in a couple years they will need to offer something else than just the same vanilla-tbc-wotlk cycle which anniversary is probably gonna be doing. Moreover while I think era servers can work they are also not really popular like weâve seen with the vanilla one which should be one of the more popular classic version.
And WoD content isnât as terrible as people would make it moreover if it is accelerated as itâs biggest problem was itâs patch release cycle. WoD was still one of the most hype expansion with one of the best theme and delivered some of the best raid content which is what a lot of people that plays classic play. I see cataclysm the same way as WoD in many ways, a more barebone expansion but still with decent content and we did cataclysm.
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You do know Cata has been essentially the most popular version of all classic servers up until a week ago when it finally got overtaken by Fresh right? And we are at the literal very end of the expac.
If you dont think WoD is coming out you are very naive. Once mop drops in 1.5 months we would only be a single expac from Legion. They are 100% wanting to get to Legion at least.
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I think the main point of this topic, was Devs spending time developing âcelestial nonsenseâ that no one asked for. I get youâre trying to curb the enthusiasm here for MOP+ but, Chief, Theyre missing so hard right now its not funny.
Jokes aside about WOD classic(god help me). This isnt going to do it.
No matter how hard they want to pretend, MOP sucked a big fat .
The fact they doubled down and spent extra dev time on more bull no one asked for is absolutely insane. Are celestial dungeons going to SAVE MOP and keep servers alive? surely right?!
This is not what people want. This is not what the people asked for.
Their effort to keep the spirit of âclassicâ alive has got to be the most restarted take if ever heard. YOURE RELEASING MISTS OF PANDARIA. ITS NOT CLASSIC ANYMORE DINGUSES.
Seriously though devs, youve got no idea what youâre talking about when you say âkeep the spirit of classic aliveââ Its been dead and trodden on 2 âexpacsâ now. Your efforts to keep âthe spirit of classic aliveâ were just hung up to die over at SOD in exchange for a character boost that wont be enough to transfer the classic audience youve cultiuvated so well in SOD. MOP isnt classic, and your efforts to sell it as such are laughable.
SOD was where the spirit of classic, at the very least, still existed. Because its existent nowhere whatsover is Mists of Pandaria (you goombas). Listen to youre audience for god sake. I cannot believe how out-of-touch these announcements are about the âspirit of classicâ. Yâall really dont want to have a good product here.
âWe know you asked vanilla with some sprinkles on it, but heres a rainbow gelati made from plastic, btfo kidâ
A lot of people actually like them ingame, even much more than me as Iâve always like raiding more than dungeons anyway and I actually asked for harder dungeons specially in mop because mop baseline heroics were simply too easy imo. It was much controversial early on when they added them in wotlk but over time I feel personally that most like them. But I think it makes much more sense to have harder dungeons through the expansion as you still need to do them and running the same heroic in later tier would have been utterly boring so from a practical mindset there isnât much to reproach from H+.
Thereâs a lot of different ways to see what makes it classic, the original one was to experience the original world of warcraft which you could argue up to wotlk. But also for me there is still value in the wotlk-mop era as it is still very different than retail as much as I get anything that isnât vanilla for some people is retail. I donât really care about that argument they could have named it something else and I would have still played it but Blizzard named them classic so by definition they are classic.
That audience still plays cata and will play mop itâs not an homogenous population the classic population is divided because it doesnât agree to a single thing and as someone playing on classic progression servers I am much more progressive in what I want and I still dislike a lot of stuff from retail like a lot of classic players.
Personally I didnât have much interest in SoD and donât have interest anymore in vanilla or tbc because for me the game starts in wotlk and Iâm sure thereâs a bunch of people with the same thinking. Wanting a bit more interesting experience less of a slug while still being a simple game with a simple progression something that isnât bloated with systems like retail.
Again I have no interest arguing about was is classic or not, Iâm having fun in cata and will enjoy mop. Iâd rather have H+ than not as they are more fun than the baseline dungeons if you donât enjoy it thatâs fine there are other options.
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Been going for about a year and a half.
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Oh, so youâre the single piece of feedback that they chose to listen to? Bad joke sorry. But thats feedback from, what, 15 years ago? Who was asking for this in the last 2 years?
Well it certainly wouldve made things less confusing hey. Standard Blizzard, The people want âClassicâ so weâll give them⌠something else, but call it Classic anyway. Then they cant complain right?
Personally, the cata players that Ive met within SOD that i still play with, are not moving back to MOP, because its MOP and not classic anymore.
Each to their own experiences. I appreciate the thought-out responses but will be agreeing to disagree.
Nor do I. The conversation was about how Blizzard refuse to give the people what they ask for, and instead give them something no one asked for.
Its an ongoing blizzard traight that i ever so tiring. Really⌠really⌠over itâŚ
Personally, I dont have much interest in MOP or anni because, for me, Ive already played those before in this lifetime.
I did a post in the CC asking for it a couple months before mop youâre free to go see it.
Very happy so far with H+ still being in and them making it so you can fly on your alts at level 85.
Nah people will complain anyway, thatâs how this works.
And weâve seen SoD players starting to join mop and Iâve seen people that quit retail long ago and didnât play any classic join for mop so yea thereâs different type of people.
That was my point.
Im trying to get into cata/MOP after SOD, but it honestly just isnt fun. Questing with flying mounts and such things.
I just cant enjoy this.
The weight felt in combat is just lost.
This isnt the game I was looking for.
I know i may not be the majority(who knows), nor am I the only one.
So i bring my feedback here, as requested by devs. Only for an orange text poster to tell me why Im wrong.
My position isnt a wrong one, But i will happily disagree with you <3
Well considering your first post Iâm glad I have helped make that feedback better and more descriptive.
its in the sod forums too. MOP+ relevant feedback went here i suppose.
thanks for the chat man, genuinely
This was something I noticed big time when SOD came out. Everyone seemed to have different ideaâs about what classic + should be. It really felt like everyone had their own idea, and every idea was being scrutinized by someone. There was pretty much zero consensus, and the mere suggestion that SOD could become a type of Classic + had people melting down in the forums at that time.
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H+ is one of the best QOL updates they have added to Classic Progressions servers. Not sure why you 1) Think its unwanted and 2) think its a waste of time when its really just tweaked version of the existing system in Cata.
I think that would be really awesome if they added some of the content that they didnât have time to implement back in WoD in a classic WoD.
I think there was a Shattrath raid planned, and an Ogre homeland island and some other stuff, but had to be cut short so they went straight to the hellfire citadel last raid.
Overall WoD was a pretty good expansion, I think people just didnât like it because they cut a ton of planned content from it. I even remember people being upset that the original âBlack Templeâ (the version before it became the black temple) was supposed to be the alliance home city, but never got finished)
typical misrepresentation
sigh
Protocol dungeons have nothing in common with M+
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