MoP Challenge Mode Information

[Badiator-whisperwind]

Hey,
So, if anyone did Challenge Modes in MoP/WoD, you might vaguely someone posting a lot named Lobster/Chalupa/Elbbarcs. Hi that’s me.
I was one of the folks that tried to help create/champion the LFG Threads on the forums and sharing of information. Then later in WoD, trying to help research some of the reflects, dark sims, etc. Ended up running at least a couple thousand over MoP & WoD.

I’m currently collecting a bunch of information for MoP Challenge Modes to help people with pugging. I don’t plan on reinventing every strat video made back then.
But I did reach out on the Keystone.guru Discord with info to try to get the dungeons added there for sharing routing in the future.

Additionally, one of the biggest problems with CMs originally is they were not a high traffic piece of pug content. So one of the main ways of pugging them was, we’d post of the forums, add each other’s battle tags, and then try to plan a time or simply put groups together as enough people were online.
Assuming that’s going to be a problem again I’m also hoping to try to help fix that again with an LFG channel so it’s not only people doing it in guilds.

Right now I’m putting it in a Discord for MoP Challenge Modes.
I hope to get some of the more basic info into a more shareable google sheet once I’ve got more or less what I want in the Discord.
I’ve got general information such as:

• Jandice Helper WeakAura/Old AddOn links
• Gear/Profession comments
• Consumable/Helpful item info
• Spec stat/talent recommendations
• Per dungeon Invis Routes and small dungeon-specific tips
• Class-specific tips

I hope to put some more weakauras or specific tip information as I go. Specifically once the beta comes up.

I’ll be the first to admit I don’t play every spec in the game. I play a handful. But I also haven’t played MoP in years either.
So I’m kind of putting this out there early, in case anyone wants to help review this info/make suggestions, or simply wants to hold onto it until MoP comes out.

If you’d like to join that discord, here’s a link for that: https://discord.gg/paN68zWTUB. Would post it as a hyperlink but the blizz forums don’t like me enough, sorry.

Cheers

[Ixiom-atiesh]

Maybe too much nostalgia. The player base has done high level M+ keys now so

1. There will be a community base now, so should be easier to get groups
2. Getting gold will be trivial compared to timing an even mid level retail key

At least thats my expectation. Maybe mop will get dev cycles and turn it into a full M+ system, but I give that a 2% chance lol.

[Badiator-whisperwind]

30-40% of players who time a M+ seem to be the average for KSM according to RaiderIO. If that’s the benchmark, I’d argue there’s still plenty of people who might appreciate the info at the very least. Plus a number of people who probably haven’t played retail, or not like that.

Also to be honest, in my time playing the FL patch the pugging situation has been pretty barren even on Mankrik/Pagle. So if there is a community base now, it’s almost entirely in guilds from my perspective.

It’d be sweet if I’m wrong and people just slam Challenge Modes constantly. Hopefully people don’t just wait for SoO for a substantial power creep and try to sneak it in at the end.
Either way, at the end of the day I just want to run a bunch of CM’s because I enjoy them.

[Ixiom-atiesh]

If they add heroic raid loot itll be very popular. I hope they do, gearing is too slow in classic for 10M

[Badiator-whisperwind]

There’s already a daily from MoP that gave a piece of gear, but it was pretty mediocre for raiders. I want to say maybe Normal raid ilvl? I don’t remember it scaling thru the expansion though.

I can’t say I’d be mad at a daily/weekly lockout for a better piece of gear. Or something like fissues on a {x} per day/week lockout or something.

*Edit, the quest I was thinking of was a daily that had a chance at an item as of ToT, and the rewards was between LFR and Normal. So a better version of the “A Worthy Challenge:” quests with a guaranteed item/currency kinda deal maybe.