MM is complete trash now

[Kreezhunt-illidan]

Welcome to the wow forum. Where people that play their spec to 10% of their potential tune in to talk about balancing.

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Leoinu-dalaran

You 100% simmed it wrong then.

Show how they simmed it wrong then.

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Mekhunter-kilrogg

might I suggest a big helping of “git gud”?

You could use a helping of this.

[Kreezhunt-illidan]

If you lost more than 200-250dps in single target you quite likely messed up your sim. You’re probably comparing a lock and load sim to a volley sim without even realizing.

[Mekhunter-kilrogg]

@Malouda-illidan

@Mekhunter-kilrogg

I knew ahead of time that it was suboptimal, but aesthetically I liked it and abom factory is the best of the four activities by far. fleshcraft is decent now and chakram is okay. its fine in ST and 2 target cleave, and awful past that for sure. plus the extra focus regen is helpful.

Regardless, seeing the one covenant that was 20% stronger than the others get taken down a peg is nice, even if its still the strongest.

To no one’s surprise you’re under 900 io and haven’t killed 3 bosses in heroic lol. Odd that someone who cares so little about actual endgame activities and only participates in activities where there is no skill floor is in here commentating on meta shifts.

said the lvl 30 DK? I already stated this is an alt and that I’m neither elite nor hardcore. But even as a filthy casual I can see that when class viability requires not only a specific spec but also a specific covenant, there’s a problem. the best way to fix the issue is to bring all specs/builds to a reasonable baseline and then balance from there. Sure, we’d all have liked them to instead bring the bottom up instead of the top down, but changing one parameter is a lot easier than changing all of the rest.

You can persist in your ad hominem attacks though, since you clearly have nothing of substance to say.

[Mekhunter-kilrogg]

because tuning the game for the 1% of the player base that plays top tier content worked out SO WELL throughout the life of this game, as well as many others. I pay the same sub you do, your opinion is no more valid than mine.

[Kreezhunt-illidan]

I do agree with you on that! Every opinion is valid for design of a class and how it feels to play it. But for the balancing, unless you are doing close to the maximum damage your class can do you aren’t heavily impacted by it.

[Spongemike-sargeras]

Not saying MM hunter is Ina good spot but I feel my dps is almost the same…? Given I play pretty casually yes my furry warrior mookin and feral druid does more damage but I find MM Hunter the most relax spec to play.

[Mekhunter-kilrogg]

fair enough; though that stuff still has an effect even for those of us below the top. If anything, personally, I’d rather they balance things towards the upper-middle (heroic raid, for example) and if things at the very top get a little…anomalous, so be it. Dumpstering a spec or class for the “rank and file” because at max ilvl when built a certain way they are a little too strong is bad and I’ve seen it happen.

The toxic elitism of gaming communities is silly and annoying. Clearly because I haven’t cleared Mythic CN I have no thoughts or input on any of the classes I play on a regular basis; as if getting that achievement opens up a new set of abilities or something.

[Malouda-illidan]

you don’t know how to use ad hominem. pointing out your low raider io and low boss kills on heroic is the exact opposite of ad hominem. its going after your character’s accomplishment, it has nothing to do with you as a person

by all objective standards you are a mediocre to bad hunter. i have no idea how you are as an individual. but you are a bad hunter, doing low content, on the hunter forums passing judgment on meta shifts. you have no seat at the table

[Kamahil-malganis]

I just want beginning aimed shot and arcane shot nerfs reverted, or a 5% aura buff

[Symboliic-tichondrius]

I sim it as I always did and lost like 450 dps with proper talents and all

[Waidmann-gilneas (Waidmann)]

MM is getting a 5% buff to aimed shot and the damage from trick shots is going from 50% to 55%

Class and Raid Tuning -- March 23

With scheduled weekly maintenance (early tomorrow, March 23 in this region), we intend to make the following adjustments: Classes Hunter Beast Mastery Beast Cleave now causes your pet to strike other targets for 90% of your pet’s damage (was 75%). Marksmanship Aimed Shot damage increased by 5%, and Trick Shots now causes your Aimed Shot or Rapid Fire to ricochet for 55% of the damage (was 50%). Monk Windwalker Spinning Crane Kick damage increased by 15% (was 10%) per unique tar…

[Perimede-zuljin]

This is about a 1.5% ST buff and 2-4% AOE buff.

[Kelurne-nagrand]

The second MM buff (Trick Shots) just seems totally random. Also doesn’t help for 2 pack cleave, which I find myself having to deal with more often than I would like.

With Aimed shot being about 20-25% of a standard rotation damage wise, the 5% will help, but I’m not positive it will make a huge difference. Seems like a bare minimum effort, but, I guess it is better than I expected, which was for the WS change to be completely ignored for another few weeks/months.

[Buweeza-frostmourne]

The WS nerf made us lose 3% ST and 8% AOE

This 5% buff to Aimed Shot which is around 30-33% of our Damage composition works out to ~ 1.5% increase only which means we are still worse than before.

It’s not enough. Even if we go back to our pre-nerfed version before 9.0.5, we were just mid of the pack.

[Stêamroller-grizzly-hills]

Agreed. I think all 3 specs are complete trash now compared to their former versions in much earlier xpacs.

[Morobir-sisters-of-elune (Morobir)]

It’s a good thing Bobby Knight was a top basketball player, otherwise he would never have been able to coach. Oh, wait, he was a bench-warmer during his college basketball career.

Personal playing skill and achievements don’t have anything to do with the ability to analyze how a class plays.

[Mekhunter-kilrogg]

well at least you’re consistently an idiot. You don’t find any issue attacking my “qualifications” (which is absurd in itself) while hiding behind an off-class alt yourself? You’ve contributed LITERALLY nothing of value to the discussion except to try to discount my opinion. And in the context of this forum/discussion, attacking accomplishments and your perception of my “skill” instead of the arguments themselves is EXACTLY ad hominem.

2/10 go back to troll school, kiddo

[Saltii-arugal]

I believe what they are saying is that you have not played your hunter enough in SL to have a valid opinion on how things are going for hunters. If you have only done a few heroic bosses and a few low level keys on your hunter then surely you can understand why your opinion holds no weight? It’s pretty simple. But please, continue to stamp your feet and have your tantrum.