Please merge pvp servers before the entire aspect of world pvp is lost. Right now grobbulus is dying with most guilds having left and the economy devastated and the only options for those of us still raiding are PVE servers. Some of us enjoy wpvp and with MOP around the corner it would be amazing if blizzard saved wpvp.
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I am fully in favor of having a single mega PvP server, as it would be beneficial. I look forward to the players who chose to play on an unbalanced faction PvP server and have deluded themselves into believing that world PvP is nonexistent. The post they’ll make posts about being camped in world PvP. They received the same warning as every other player before creating a character and chose to accept it.
Im going to quote what was said back in April 2024
"Faerlina-US and Benediction-US are fake PvP realms, they’re 99% one faction each. One Horde, one Alliance, and almost equal in player size. @AggrendWoW and I kind of desperately want to clash the two realms together and turn on faction balancing.
The problem is, a very real number of people established on those realms never really wanted to deal with the reality of balanced PvP and messing with that could cause many of them to leave."
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No, stop trying to make players who have already decided to segregate themselves into a situation they did not sign up for.
And no the argument “But the realm is tagged PvP” does not matter. When they have been effectively PvE realm for three expansions. It is a PvE realm. The only thing that should be forced about these players are other players deciding to role on this servers on the minority faction specifically to gank those players.
That is it.
If World PvP is so important to you. Go roll on the realm that wants and deserves world PvP.
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Everyone hates WPVP, thats why faction dominated servers are a thing
Well… yeah, that is unfortunely the truth. The only time the majority wants World PvP is during a fresh launch. As they want it as part of their leveling experiences seemingly.
At least those who don’t lock themselves in a dungeon somewhere.
They did sign up for this, though, when they chose to roll on a PvP server and hit Accept.
While it’s true that some PvP servers have effectively become PvE realms due to faction imbalance, this doesn’t change the fact that they were originally designed for PvP interactions.
Players who joined these servers did so with the understanding that they might encounter world PvP.
Now let’s discuss how you contradicted yourself in this post.
- The post claims that PvP servers have become effectively PvE realms, yet it acknowledges that players on these servers should expect to be ganked by others who roll on the minority faction.
- It suggests that players who value world PvP should roll on realms that want and deserve it, but this contradicts the idea that PvP servers should maintain their intended purpose for world PvP.
This is your opinion; it is not a fact. Here are some facts to read and understand.
- Player Preferences: Not everyone hates WPVP. Many players enjoy the thrill and challenge of world PvP, which is why they choose to play on PvP servers.
- Faction Dominance: Faction-dominated servers often result from players seeking a more balanced or safer environment, but this doesn’t mean that all players dislike WPVP. It simply reflects the choices of some players to avoid being outnumbered.
- Purpose of PvP Servers: PvP servers are designed for world PvP, and players who join these servers do so with the expectation of engaging in player-versus-player combat. The existence of faction-dominated servers doesn’t negate the fact that many players still enjoy and seek out world PvP.
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People make mistakes and those mistakes shouldn’t condemn them forever. If blizzard wants to faction balance they should give pvp players a free transfer to a pve server so they can correct their error. Then faction balance those who actually want wpvp, if that’s possible.
No it doesn’t change that they were originally designed for PvP interaction. However, the players of those realms have made it clear exactly what it is they want. Trying to force them to do something they don’t want for a minority is not going to work out well for anyone involved. We are just going to end up back at square one with a good chunk less players for the attempt.
That isn’t a contradiction. That is just the reality of the situation. It is a majority of one factions. That means there is a minority. They choose to deal with that minority for the larger population of their own faction.
That is what they signed up for when creating characters on or transferring to this faction imbalanced realms. There is absolutely no reason to pretend otherwise.
No, it really does not. You can definitely have the imaginative stance that PvP realms should remain PvP realms.
However, reality and the majority disagree here. They have actively… on multiple occasions segregated themselves into the shape we see today. The exception are the players who do value WPvP. Those players organized themselves to play on the same realm together.
All realms have like-minded players who choose those realms because they held the properties they care about as a player.
Any attempt to change the way that these realms are is to invalidate the choices that those players made. All so those players have to make that choice again. In which case you will try to invalidate that choice once again.
The current faction unbalanced realms are they way they are because those players valued the size of their faction. That is why even on the PvE realms they are still segregated. Because these players do not care about faction balance. They do not care about world PvP. They only care about the number of players they have to play with.
Just like those who are on smaller realm made a choice to play there because they wanted a smaller population and do not wish to be merged into the larger realms as we have seen with other server merge threads.
The choices these players made should not be invalidated because you think they should have made a different choice, and feel one thing should be another.
As I’ve stated many times before. These single factions realm should be redesignated PvE realms, and either a new PvP should be opened with free transfers to it. The players who then care about WPvP can move then from any other realm. That is a solution, but that would not leave the WPvP players happy as there is not a ton of them. They are a minority and there is no changing that.
Those free transfers would have to be open for awhile. As players are not going to move unless they are forced to.
Aka people will wait to see which faction dominates then the losing side will leave. It has happened every time this is done.
If you’re gonna write back to me don’t use Chatgpt
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This is why there are server transfers, and players can also choose to reroll on another server if they do not want to transfer. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. It is not as if Blizzard is forcing players to stay if they were to create one mega PvP server.
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I never pvp but even I know that pvp players cannot transfer to a pve server. And these players paid to create a single faction server already. Now you want to force them together so they can pay again to create a single faction server.
As usual you don’t care about the health of the game or any one but your self. Players, many who paid to transfer to single faction servers would be given a binary choice, reroll and abandon their character they put a large amount of time into or play on a server that’s not fun for them. You just love forcing players into binary choices when there are ways to give players more options that would make the game fun for the most amount of players.
Yes yes, I know. I agree with everything you posted, really good job. I’m just saying that if blizzard decided to create a mega pvp server, which is highly unlikely, blizzard should open up free transfers to pve realms. Let players correct their mistake if they want to and go pve.
Well here we go again.
- Players made the choice to roll on a PvP server, accepting the risks and challenges associated with it.
- The argument contradicts itself by acknowledging that players paid to create a single faction server, yet opposing the idea of merging servers to maintain the intended PvP experience.
- The suggestion that players would have to pay again to create a single faction server overlooks the fact that server merges aim to balance factions and enhance the overall gameplay experience.
- Players made the choice to transfer to single faction servers, knowing the potential consequences.
- The argument contradicts itself by criticizing binary choices while ignoring the fact that server merges provide a solution to faction imbalance and improve the overall health of the game.
- The claim that I don’t care about the health of the game is unfounded, as the goal is to create a balanced and enjoyable experience for all players.
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And if they decide they made a mistake they should be condemned to live with that mistake forever or pay some cost in money or time. I understand 100% who you are. You don’t care about anyone but yourself.
I don’t pvp so what ever blizzard does with the pvp servers won’t affect me at all, but I still want blizzard to take care of those players to give them the most fun experience as possible. I care about the health of the game, I don’t want them to unsub. And I care about people, I don’t like to see them unhappy when there are ways to make the game more fun for the most amount of players
In life, every choice has a corresponding reaction. When players choose to roll on a PvP server, they accept the risks and challenges associated with it.
If they later decide it was a mistake, there are options available, such as server transfers or rerolling on a different server. These choices come with their own costs, whether in money or time, but they are part of the consequences of the initial decision.
It’s NOT about condemning anyone; it’s about understanding that actions have consequences and making informed decisions based on that understanding.
If that’s the case you should be punished for lying about me when you stated that I do less than 10k dps in heroic dungeons. But that won’t happen. This is just a game and it should be as fun as possible for the greatest number of people as possible. But in every single way in every post you make it’s clear you only care about what’s best for you.
That right there is a perfect example of a choice having a repercussion. I never said players should be punished for choosing to roll on a PvP server. My point was that every choice has a corresponding reaction. When players choose to roll on a PvP server.
Choices and decisions made in a video game also have consequences and repercussions, just like in life. However, they tend to not be as severe or detrimental.
That they did. They then took that consequence, and then paid to rectify that consequence. What you are champion. Is that both the consequences they endured and the payment they did afterwards to rectify the situation should be invalidated and they be made to suffer the consequences once again, until they pay a second time to rectify those consequence again.
Do you not see the issue here.
They did take those options that were available. They *paid money and time for that initial decision.
You are champion that this payment wasn’t enough and now they need to do it again.
If it definitely about condemning them. The consequences happened during OG Classic. The payment and informed decision-making happened during TBC Classic.
You are now want to revert that to condemn them to pay a second time.
It would be akin to choosing to be a criminal, serving your time or paying your fine, then being charged again for a crime you did not commit because “Once a criminal always a criminal” so you did a crime you did not commit.
Liars tend to lie, often. Since you’ve lied here it’s highly likely you lie often in your real life. You’ve likely gotten away with your lying often and faced no repercussions or consequences. But like most narcissists you want to hold other people to the strictest standards while escaping the consequences of your actions.
Now you are the one who wants to Punish players who want world PvP on a PvP server by forcing them to transfer is wrong. Players who rolled on a PvP server did so with the expectation of engaging in world PvP. It’s unfair to force them to transfer to maintain the intended PvP experience.
Players who chose to roll on a PvP server accepted the risks and challenges associated with it. It’s more reasonable to address the faction imbalance and maintain the integrity of PvP servers rather than redesignating them as PvE realms.
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