Meme Specs: Relax, it's not your decision. Let it go šŸ„³

Regardless of them leaving or not, I look forward to more ā€œthis doesnā€™t act like my private server, itā€™s not authentic!ā€ posts like we had when beta first opened.

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Thatā€™s my gut feeling on it too. Just a hunch.

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Ummmm if you are already complaining on the forums your skin is too thin and you wont make it.

I really really hope you are trolling, just in case you arenā€™t, allow me to enlighten you a bit.

  • Players protected by Blessing of Protection lose aggro while under its duration. Tanking paladins can use this as a last resort method of aggro management, or because of a playerā€™s inability to perform melee actions through the shield, an effective way to reign in a melee dps class who is unable to control their own aggro. The threat reduction only lasts for the duration of the blessing however, so a tanking paladin needs to make sure they are able to generate enough threat to keep aggro when the blessing expires.

The threat reduction only lasts for the duration of the blessing

People should just wait for 5 stacks of sunder. Paladins arenā€™t itemized to tank and get crit and crushed.

9/10 Troll, iā€™m suprised you havenā€™t rustled more people jimmies with this one.

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Yes, you do. Blessing of Protection is not a threat wipe. If youā€™re number 1 on the threat, and you remain number 1 on the threat after BoP ends, you will still have aggro.

Overhealing doesnā€™t cause threat. Throwing up Rejuvenation before the fight starts will do literally nothing to help their aggro.

And with what Blizzard has revealed to us about the parry chance on bosses, Feral Druids are nowhere near the kings of threat. A Human Protection Warrior with a sword would generate far more threat.

True, but they did still laugh at those specs. What we call those specs these days is totally inconsequential.

ā€œlolretā€ was a thing in vanilla.
ā€œoomkinā€ was a thing in vanilla.
ā€œlelementalā€ was a thing in vanilla.

No one said otherwise.

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This attitude is why WoW is no longer a GAME. Both the devs and the players obsessed over things that ultimately donā€™t matter. Because they donā€™t make the game more fun, more engaging, more immersive. ā€˜Balanceā€™ is often the anti-thesis of fun, and WoW is a clear example of this.

Of course most players arenā€™t able to actually accept this. They just go by rational thinking of what -should- be more fun, when in reality you donā€™t even realize why you enjoy a game. You donā€™t spend time analyzing what keeps your playing because you get lost in the experience. You donā€™t get lost in the experience obsessing over numbers and what is most optimal. Math doesnā€™t lead to fun.

But whatever. Thereā€™s plenty of people and guilds who just want to play a game and have fun. And Classic will be fantastic for that experience.

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Hybrid meme specs were viable if one dedicated to healing until the received 5/5 T 2.5. This is easier said than done, by all means AQ40 is harder and larger than Naxx so a lot of guilds wonā€™t do it.

you replied to his already explained method with aā€¦ definition of an ability? yeah no SHlT sherlock. He said overtake threat with the 2nd tank, like what are you even on at this point?

Myself and a couple of friends are looking to start a semi hardcore raiding guild in classic with a twist our main raiding team will be filled with specs that were considered a meme back in 2005. we will be looking for druid main healers, arms warriors, ret paladins and boomies. our problem is we dont know if we can get enough people to fill up the raid. So reply on this thread if you would be interested.

More info: Alliance guild, North American and a PVP server
we donā€™t have raid time specified yet but will be determined when we find more people willing to participate

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Plenty of people do find optimizing their characters(to varying degrees depending on the person) to be fun though.

Iā€™m fine with people who arenā€™t me playing whatever spec in groups Iā€™m not in on account of the fact that it doesnā€™t impact me.

However your argument is basically trying to tell me that Iā€™m wrong for enjoying the game in a way that is different from you.

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Do you even know how 4 horseman works? you have to tank and build threat the entire time you are tanking that boss, you canā€™t out threat the last tank within the span of 10 secondsā€¦

edit: Thus the need for an actual tauntā€¦ you do know what taunt does right?

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I donā€™t know about you, but I like winning games. Wanting to play in a way that makes that easier doesnā€™t mean Iā€™m not playing a game anymore.

I never brought up balance. The whole thing about meme specs existing is because of IMBALANCE, not balance.

Pointing out that some specs are just inherently bad is not advocating for them to be balanced; itā€™s simply an observation.

With all due respect, speak for yourself.

I literally made a spreadsheet to calculate how best to improve my healing because I actually really enjoy playing with numbers and optimizing.

I did this FOR FUN. Because I was bored and wanted to entertain myself. You donā€™t care about that stuff? Fine, but some people do.

And even if most people donā€™t enjoy working with numbers, they still enjoy ā€˜winning.ā€™ They let nerds like me do the math and tell them what is good so they can have a more enjoyable experience.

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If my time around here has taught me anything, itā€™s that a surprising number of people donā€™t actually know what Taunt did in Vanilla.

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Iā€™m gonna play a sub rogue and top the meters.

it still amazes me, people are so sure of themselves but have no clue.

What killed the game are people who insist on playing a jack of all trades but get made they donā€™t excel at everything then get mad they canā€™t attend group content. They go on to call the community toxic because no one wants to play with them because they waste time, the community isnā€™t toxic itā€™s you, you who want a special accommodation and ruin otherā€™s fun needing a carry and crying for balance.

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As long as the rest of the raid is full of ret paladins, ele shamans and boomkins you absolutely will.

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Nope, iā€™m gonna do it no matter what the comp is.