Healing at 2-2.2k RSS is absolutely terrible, precog has completely ruined the game.
There’s nothing even close to comparable for melee, putting you at an immediate disadvantage for even logging on, such a big disadvantage in fact you might as well not even log on the class. Precog needs an internal CD of 30s AT LEAST, on top of a 50% nerf to its duration and haste given, warlocks, spriest, boomkins, and mages can all kill you in under 1s so why do they need 4 seconds? That’s INSANELY long time to be freecasting with AN INSANE AMOUNT of extra haste all for little to no skill to play. (wtf how was this even allowed) . On top of infinite spammable cc being WAYY out of hand (why weren’t warlocks hit with cc nerf? blatantly obvious someone at blizzard plays warlock, we have an EXACT situation like when ghostcrawler had mages). To put this in perspective, its not even worth interrupting anymore, the best you can do is a 3 second lock out of ONE school (should be locked from all schools of magic for dps, individual schools for healers), and on the opposite side you miss? Well they get 15% haste, casting immunity, AND cc immunity while the decimate your team for FOUR SECONDS ??? WHAT??? THATS MORE THAN THE LOCKOUT WHICH ACTUALLY REQUIRES SKILL TO USE??? Casters used to have an inclement of skill to play the game, casters at 2k+ literally just STAND THERE because they know they’re unkillable with infinite cc, no need for gate, or port or kiting or cross cc or interrupting or positioning, literally PVE M+ at 40yds at each other till a healer ooms and its pretty sad and extremely boring/unsatisfying gameplay.
Back to the point, I haven’t seen a melee in the last 5-6 rounds of RSS above 2k, alarming enough to come post about it. The only decent melee ive run into lately (sub or right at 2k mmr) atm is ENH because their damage is WAYY OVERTUNED (pretty much ret paladins after rework, (before the 6 nerfs) doing upwards of 200k DPS in an RSS opener, but we know this will be nerfed because we cant have our precious casters losing games :'((( )
Pretty much gave up on ret paladin after hitting 3k on him cuz they’re the worst melee in the game, freedom being dispellable GUTTED that class, its already the slowest melee in the game now its 3x worse, they’re free kills in RSS and has easily the worst defensives in the game.
death knight would like a word with you.
and i agree, this whole wizard nonsense where they basically just do their m+ rotation all game while having the strongest cc in the game since they were untouched by the changes, while also gaslighting you into thinking that what they are doing requires any level of skill, is quite boring to say the least.
Amen.
Being Melee in SS is like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
Go D stance, move out from a pillar, get instantly dotted & blasted in the face, waddle towards them while getting rooted - feared - trapped - slowed - MC’d - cycloned - polymorphed - frozen - disoriented, and then when you get to them they use their mobility to peace out.
seems like we’re never satisfied lol. last season melee was dominant and now it’s the opposite
I don’t think precog necessarily needs the haste buff anymore (or it could be lowered to 5% or something), but suggesting a 30s internal CD would simply make it useless. At that point people would just throw interrupts to trigger precog when it wouldn’t benefit the target.
P.S. Melee are fine. It’s as demoralizing getting a 3/4 melee lobby as a caster as it is getting a 3/4 caster lobby as a melee. And most melee are putting out great damage.
As always, it’s melee/caster/healer comps that feel the most balanced and enjoyable for everyone (barring RM). But Blizzard isn’t exactly going to enforce that, and it’s not compatible with current shuffle.
Thats not true warlock was still the most played class outside of the 72 hours ret had before the first nerf, less than 24hrs after first nerf drustovar was reporting they were they were 3rd behind demo warlock and arms warrior. in the AWC it still had ret beat 2:1 ratio in comps. It was just as broken as it is now but was overshadowed by the 72 hours of glory ret had, they’ve went pretty much untouched through shadowlands and most of dragonflight only to be buffed and somehow dodge the CC nerf.
I’m not sure I’d go so far as to say that.
Vulpera warriors were broken.
Man, a lot of awful opinions in this thread…
Destro and boomy would like a word vs a 3 melee lobby. They still shred.
Nose for trouble deserves to be 100% more effective in pvp combat.
I usually give credit to nerf precog posts and look at overtuned wizards, but this perspective is so fried i hope they triple all wizard damage just to spite players that think like this.
WALL OF TEXT CRITS YOU FOR 100000000
Yeah, that’s the issue. Either classes are over-tuned or under-tuned.
Class “Balance” is always broken in one direction or the other
For the first time of the game i consider not using pummel as war , because of precog …makes me hesitant of pressing one key…i agree that precog is op and needs nerf or giving melee something of equal strength and i know ppl will tell me get gud… but my peak as a gamer with fast reflexes is over.
It’s funny how fast paly got nerfed but this time the broken specs are not touched at all not even a small tweak or something…
So much over exaggerated nonsense in this op I had to stop reading
Sorry you can’t just face roll to win anymore and have to time your kicks and stuns as well as have positional awareness now. Welcome to what ranged and casters have had to do and learn though all the early portions of the arena. It’s like now you can’t just brute force it anymore and now you’ll cry. Looking at the threes ladder I’d say melee are still VERY dominant and maybe it’s time to learn more instead of being mad brute force doesn’t work anymore.
“bad melee lose to bad casters, it evens out at higher mmr”
“good melee are a nightmare to play against, you need to rotate your defensives”
“You need to use your whole kit and stop wasting mobility and defensives on air”
Ah, how the tables turned.
Melee going to have to cope with men in dresses slappin them around.
“How dare you dam ranged spec to do more dps if i am a melee, it have to be a bug, yes blizz plz hot fix emergency for ranged spec. They cannot be the win condition, zug zug have to be”