Some people see them as tattoos, but I’ve always viewed them as brands. They were on the older Dragonmaw Orc skins, but weren’t included when the models were updated to high resolution.
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Yes they do.
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Okay those are cool, They should definitely add them to MO’s then. They probably will when AR’s get their real turn with more options.
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Why would Mag’har or Orgrimmar Orcs apply those markings?
IDK same reason Bronzebeards put on Wildhammer tattoos, cuz they’re weebs.
I am glad that, at the very least, you recognize both as a compromise. 
Better than nothing, sure, but there’s enough there, narratively, culturally, aesthetically, and even mechanically, to make separate Allied Races for both.
Also, does Stoneform on a Wildhammer Dwarf make anyone else wince?
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don’t need no more ugly orcs or fugly dwarves. we have too many as it is
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But seriously, the more Orcs and Dwarves, the better. Offset the Elven population a bit. Both Elves and Humans have four variants. No harm bumping us up to three.
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its just a cooler version of the boring look linked by the op
Dragonmaw Orc skin tones can simply be added to the Orcs. Wildhammer dwarves will be a thing with the various customization options. The only difference between a Wildhammer and a Bronzebeard dwarf is that a Wildhammer dwarf prefers to live above ground and tattoo their bodies.
You cite that as the only difference, yet the Dark Iron have virtually the same mountain-dwelling background (plus red eyes) and became an Allied Race. If anything, there’s more to work with with Wildhammers than there was with Dark Iron.
As for Dragonmaw Orcs, they’re much more distinct, both culturally and phenotypically, than the baseline and Mag’har. It makes little sense to add them to the baseline Orcs. We even got an entirely short story about how an Orc with Dragonmaw ancestry never felt like he fit in with Thrall’s Horde, given his background.
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Uhh… No.
The Dark Irons have completely different skin tones, hair colours, eye colours, racial backgrounds, the works. Even in lore they are a completely different sub-species of dwarf.
The Wildhammer and Bronzebeard dwarves are the same race, there’s no difference between them other than culture, because the only thing separating them is what clan they belong to. Beyond that it’s superficial changes like tattoos and jewelery that separates them, all of which are becoming customization options in Shadowlands for the dwarf race.
Not really.
The Dragonmaw Orcs have the same background as the normal orcs, they’re even part of the Horde now, so there’s no need for them to be ‘recruited’ as an Allied Race, since they became part of the Horde during Cataclysm. They have different skintones and eye colours, but that’s really all that separates them. They have the same culture as every other Orc from our universe.
The difference is more pronounced now because the time has been spent to differentiate them. Way back in vanilla, when people asked for playable Dark Iron dwarves, we were told that we already had the proper skintone for them, but we wouldn’t be able to look identical because playable dwarves aren’t under the thrall of Ragnaros. They are not “completely different.”
Meanwhile, Wildhammer dwarves, while led by the Wildhammer Clan, are also described as physically different.
Note that it is said they are taller and slimmer than their mountain-dwelling cousins, and their skintones range from tan to nearly-orange - skintones we do not have access to. Painting a Bronzebeard does not a Wildhammer make.
And you should, at the very least, play through the Twilight Highlands as a Horde character before making such a claim about the Dragonmaw. Essentially, the Dragonmaw Orcs are what the Alliance perceives all of Orcs to be - wild, unpredictable, and unflinchingly dominating. This is a stark contrast to the Orgrimmar Orcs who see their introduction to Azeroth as shameful. For the Dragonmaw, the war never ended. They are unconquered. They did not flee. They themselves are the conquerors, not the refugees.
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I feel like both of these could just be turned into customization options for orcs and dwarves.
Don’t you have to earn “megathread”?
And they could have added antlers to Tauren and golden tattoos to Draenei and brown skin to Orcs and red eyes to Dwarves and tentacle hair to Blood Elves. But that would have been missing the point.
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what point? those are all things they should have done
The cultural distinction. The pomp and circumstance of inducting a new people into our factions. The mounts, the tabards, the racials, the racial armour… there’s much more to an Allied Race than a different skin colour.
Does it make any sense at all to you that a Wildhammer Dwarf has this as their racial armour?
None at all.
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