They’re completely separate entities. Both very firmly established.
I still wish we had an option more like this. I really liked the edit.
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I think they look cool and all… not the biggest fan of bulky large characters, but I would try this.
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I don’t necessarily disagree, but I think going full Drakonid with them would be a step too far.
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Could have been amazing to get both dracthyr and drakanoids
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Dunno that I’d call it full drakonid.
The edit on the right is just more representative of what we were expecting of a race that’s supposed to capture the dragon fantasy.
Both options would have been great for more diversity in the body shapes.
I’m still disappointed we don’t have any of the larger jaws like you see on a lot of the dragons.
Drakonid are still considerably bulkier.
I wouldn’t mind seeing it more encompassing of dragonkin in general.
If they can’t do the 4 legged dragonspawn, then maybe build a 2 legged variant using the tarasek as a basis. Maybe even make that as part of how they come to be. All 3 would be great options though. Drakonid/Dragonspawn/Tarasek.
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I want Drakonid! please blizzard you said you wanted too as well!
i will give you my money for race changes.
Yep. Every character of mine that isn’t an Orc or Dracthyr would be cashed in to transform into Drakonids.
I just want the drakonid form for the dracthyr overall.
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Drakonid don’t generally breathe fire. Or cast magic. Or fly. They are fundamentally the opposite of Dracthyr. Making Dracthyr buff solves nothing.
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Nor does it ruin anything. Can’t see why a dracthyr being able to be herculean shaped would be a negative.
But I do quite like being able to be a slimmer spellcaster - as opposed to the hulk-like spellcasters we get otherwise.
Dracthyr exist as a compromise. They didn’t want to give us playable dragons outright, so they removed the strength and size and came up with the Dracthyr. If you add that back in, it makes the Dracthyr entirely pointless. At that point, they should just make dragons playable outright.
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I would much prefer to see the diversity of dragonkin expressed with multiple races rather than mashing all these disparate visions into a single addition that doesn’t fully capture any of them and ultimately appeals directly to no one.
But yeah, I do agree with more snout variations with better jawlines. I wonder how common the Ancient option is…
It would be equivalent to making a tall Gnome. Or a scrawny Orc.
I do not see how.
They were designed to capture everything about dragons sans the physicality. Add the physicality back in, and you just have dragons again. Without being actual dragons. And in that case, they should have just made dragons playable outright.
Mmmh, no… drakonids are not exactly dragons.
And making Dracthyr bulkier wouldn’t make them drakonids either.
That said, blizzard have made plenty of mistakes… such as making the orc default form a peon’s form. Something they rectified years later, hopefully the same will happen with dracthyr eventually.
Drakonids + Dracthyr are, though. You have the size, ferocity, presence, strength, flight, visage forms, fire-breathing and spellcasting all in a single package. That’s just a roundabout way of getting back to a full dragon without actually giving us dragons. Like Void Elves are High Elves, just with more steps.
And just like making Void Elves more like High Elves diluted and weakened the fantasy of being a Void Elf, making Dracthyr more like dragons by adding in Drakonid traits would weaken and dilute the fantasy of being a Dracthyr.
Then it is already a diluted fantasy of being a dragon. Which is basically what dracthyr are, if we are to argue in that way.
Nah, I see no real argument against bulkier dracthyr.
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It absolutely is. By intent. They felt that they couldn’t give us “full dragons,” so they teased out everything that made dragons unique and put it in a humanoid package.
It just so happens that all the aspects of being a dragon that they left behind was similarly packaged with Drakonids. They are the physicality of dragons in a potentially playable package. They would make sense with all the other classes, too, since they can’t fly and (generally) don’t breathe fire. They use weapons. They use mortal magic. They’re the perfect foil to Dracthyr.
To make Drakonid playable instead of just making Dracthyr buff is capitalizing on two strong fantasies instead of creating something that is a compromised compromise that pleases no one when, if they were going to go that route anyway, full dragons could have been playable.
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