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Sethrak Sethrak Sethrak!
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same here!
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Yes BOTH. 
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I would rather they just added Mokânathal, in all honesty. They look way more rad than ogres.
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MokâNathal are probably more likely, but ogres are a heavily requested race.
I imagine weâd have quite a few ticked off folk if they do.
I want to be clear I support Mokânathal and Ogres.
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Iâve said before that one getting in should not be a replacement for the other, and that one becoming playable should not mean the other would never become playable. Theyâre both different races with different personalities and culture, and I donât see why both couldnât become playable together. Just my opinion, of course.
Not to mention that the character creation screen has been revamped in Shadowlands, so there is plenty of room for both:
Taken from here:
Speaking of which, this is the most exciting part of Shadowlands for me since there is now room for more new races. I do wonder if the concept of core and allied races are now merged into just a general playable race category now, since all the current allied races are having their rep requirements to unlock them removed. Regardless, I still hope to see playable Ogres on the Horde side of that screen someday.
Dream big, Ogre fans! 
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per rexxar model, he is exactly like an ogre without a belly and a horn, so it would be pointless saying one is better than the other in the model subject.
And Again, moknathal are less because because they are all but extinct
Good to see someone still have hope, lost mine long ago.
Blizzard put ogres as villains in the new ânew playerâ starting quests, apparently is clear their stance towards then.
Also, shadowlands races, they are prob going to get their turn, more or less 3 years of waiting for us
Thatâs sad to hear.
I mean theyâre villains all over the place. Why does here cause an issue?
Unless by some miracle thatâs a red herring.
I donât really mind the covenant races I was just hoping for more of the races folk have wanted for years. You know?
Horde Ogres, Alliance Vrykul.
I honestly think Blizzard will do this eventually. I mean both the Orcs and Humans run the Alliance and Horde.
Why not give us both of their ancestor races? The Vrykul created the Humans and the Ogres created the Orcs.
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I personally do not want the vrykul. Theyâre just big humans with orc mentalities.
I mean letâs be honest Iâd make one though. Lol
Also I think orcs and ogres came from ogron didnât they?
Ogres came first, then Orcs came from Ogres.
I mean if the Horde are going to get Ogres, which are just fat Orcs, I donât see why giant viking Humans arenât an option for the Alliance.
The progenitor races of both factionâs main races. Vrykul Alliance. Ogre Horde.
Itâs too perfect aside from preference here. You may not want them, but having the main races founders become playable is really cool and balanced.
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Yeahp. Just looked it up again. Youâre right.
Hey Iâll buy that.
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Playing an Ogre Shaman or Mage would make me weep with joy.
Paladin Ogres however. No. Unlike Zandalari, thereâs nothing showing them ever being reverent or religious. Ogres are gladiatorial fighters, brutes and it was a fluke with the Skalax that introduced them to Mages.
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Regarding the new starting area, the Darkmaul Ogres arenât Horde affiliated to my knowledge, but even then there have been several Ogre clans who were antagonistic to the Horde and still are. Despite that, there are still three clans that are part of the Horde, and just because there are enemy Ogres doesnât change anything. I honestly donât see enemy Ogre mooks being a stance on the race as a whole.
Ogres can still work as enemy mooks without affecting their playable status. I mean, not all humans are part of the Alliance, and it doesnât mean that the Stonemaul Ogres canât eventually become playable still even if we beat up enemy Ogre clans. The Stonemaul are a completely different entity and already part of the Horde, for that matter.
I still have hope for playable Horde Ogres, as they are one of my most wanted playable races. Iâll keep supporting them as best as I can, as having support of some sort is better than no support at all.
Dream big, Ogre fans! 
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I think playable Ogres or MokâNathal on the Horde would be a great idea.
The only thing I disagree on are the following class choices:
Paladin, Death Knight, Monk
In no fantasy genre I am aware of, nor in WoW, is there anything about the fantasy of an Ogre that remotely hints at an Ogre version of the above. Quite frankly, I would extend this to Shadow priests (until Twilightâs Hammer cult from CataâŚso I canât).
But not Paladins --> Ogres are not knightly.
Not Death Knights --> they werenât around around Lich King / Scourge attacked areas (wellâŚto the best of our knowledge, if proven wrong I am willing to be flexible on this one)
Not Monks â> Ogres are giant brutes and barbarians. While some have shown the cunning needed to be a Warlock, the concept of a monk is just not fitting to the fantasy of an Ogre.
Otherwise, yeah, go for it. Playable Ogres.
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Because since wod they were not, and even there was something different since they were in a weird place kinda forced to ally with the iron horde, and since ogres also came with the maghar i thought maybe they could went in another direction.
Honestly ogre necromancers using souls to raise a dragon sounds completely out of place.
shadowlands races are brand new shenanigans, they are now popular and relevant to the story, if, allied races are added to shadowlands, it will way more likely be then.
Unless they force ogres in the narrative like maghar, but there is no way they do it.
Vrykul are as much different of a human as a dwarf is, they are half-giants way cooler, and would appeal many people with their norse thematic
ogres are religious towards a war god
The ogre paladin thing is just a stretch that i kinda throw in, if they intead to explore the Gorian empire, who, is akin to the roman empire, Roman eventually adapted Christianity, so in me head, the gorian ogres of wow, could go more or less in the same direction, devoted to the war god and fighting like paladin gladiators.
Also, because is a bit polemic and would bump the thread now and then
Se the explanation above about paladin.
there are Ogres brewmasters in the game, and to be a monk you donât need much, just an pandaren trainer.
Death knights?, there is a few ogres dks in lore
like those guys:
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https://pm1.narvii.com/6540/e355baec6b3ea172c8e591554d829c8099992fb6_hq.jpg
friend of mine have played his Ogre Paladin of Grummush pretty well, i just donât remember what setting he played, it was forgotten realms or dark sun, D&D btw
I donât know man. I still donât see how it would matter. From vanilla on through WoD we slaughter ogres wholesale and the entire time theyâve at least had the Stonemaul allied directly with the horde.
I think Bagzak mentions three specifically allied with them these days?
Thatâs a lot of unaligned ogres left over.
Sure but they also said not to expect any allied races in the near future and why would the dead races want to Ally with the living world?
I donât know. Something smells fishy and it ainât the Ankoan.
Iâm not gonna change my mind on them. I donât want them and theyâre just more humans.
Little hypocritical of me since I really want Wildhammer but those dwarves have been with the alliance since forever.
No hate to those who do want them. Iâm just unlikely to be swayed. Iâll root for those folk who do want them to see em one day.
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This is legit one of the best posts Iâve ever seen.
Ogres have been in and out of the Horde since the Second War.
I was literally waiting years for them to be implemented after we got Goblins but⌠we got Pandas⌠then somehow Vulpera.
They would make excellent Horde Warriors, Hunters and Casters.
I still sit blindsided by how we ended up with Vulpera, we should have gotten these guys instead.
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Ogres and Furbolgs. Two of the oldest âneutralâ races in World of Warcraft and neither has been AR-ified yet. Kind of a shame.
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The Stonemaul Clan (Dustwallow Marsh) are one, for sure.
The Dunemaul Clan (Tanaris) joins the Horde in Cataclysm, although the quests really play up the whole âtoo dumb to know what theyâre signing up forâ aspect since Goblins were involved.
While Rexxar and the Half-Orcs are the poster children of the Mokânathal (Bladeâs Edge Mountains), the tribe supposedly includes full-blooded Orcs and Ogres in their numbers.
The remnants of the Gorian Empire (AU Draenor) that followed the Magâhar to Azeroth are most likely included in the Hordeâs numbers now.
For a few âmaybesâ:
The Torchbelcher Tribe (Wetlands) was allied with the Dragonmaw for a time, so itâs possible that some of them wound up integrating with the Horde during Cataclysm.
The Gordunni Clan (Dire Maul) is an interesting one. A human takes the mantle of King Gordok in the Traveler series, but eventually loses it, meaning they are likely independent. With the advent of the Magâhar, part of me wants to see a Gorian Ogre become the next King Gordok and make an effort to turn Dire Maul into a sort of âNew Gorian Empire.â I think thatâd be a nifty base of operations.
Thereâs also the Ogriâla (Bladeâs Edge Mountains) who might be swayed, but I think theyâre happy just chilling on their crystal mountain and I wouldnât want to harsh their vibe.
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