Megathread: Merge Skeram and Heartseeker

Skeram was 30/70 horde. If a merger actually happened right this moment, it would be 55/45 alliance.

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As intriguing as a server merge would be, realistically it would never happen. In my personal opinion, this is situation of everyone thinking they want it, but they really don’t. Not to mention that the opinions of the 20-30 (if that) Heartseeker players that I saw reply to this thread most likely aren’t indicative of the overall playerbase’s attitude about something like this. Same with Skeram.

Each sever probably has what, a little over 2,000 players? Do you really think Blizzard would make a decision that impacts thousands of people, many potentially negatively, based on the feedback from a few dozen posters on the forums? Sorry, but not likely.

Because it’s the players.

If there is fault in blizzard it’s because they tried to make everyone happy to begin with, they should of never done free xfers.

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But they did. If I was horde on Stalagg and they offered me free transfers to Whitemane, I would take them in a millisecond. I would be behaving rationally based on the options given to me. Why then am I to blame if Whitemane gets ruined, and not Blizzard?

Sure, there are people whining on the forums, but there are always people whining on the forums. You can’t say “the players” are to blame for decisions Blizzard made just because some guy made a post on the forums. Blizzard is responsible for their decisions. And if their decision ruins a server, then it is their responsibility to fix the problem they created.

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I like the merge, a lot of people are used to roaming the world without interruption at this point. Will be a big shift in how the world feels but it makes for some great memories having it be truly contested. Finding a server with relatively even population was the reason a lot of us came to Heartseeker in the first place.

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This seems to me to be one of the most outlandish/ridiculous ideas ever, on these forums. These two servers have the faction balance they have completely due to player choice.

If, almost 2 years after their respective faction balances have been established, you do not like the faction balance on one of these servers, don’t play on it.

But asking for Blizzard to step in and undo the player-driven, player-created, (OBVIOUSLY) player-desired faction balance on Heartseeker and Skeram seems like anything but, “the right thing.”

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You sit on your terrible server stuck and expect blizzard to bail you out, they aren’t going to.

Either cough up the money to fix your own problems or stay on your dead server.

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Looks like you’ve given up trying to make a coherent and rational argument. Which makes me wonder, why are you so opposed to a merger, or free transfers from Skeram to Heartseeker or vice versa, or whatever? Why are you so angry? Why is creating basically another 50/50 server from two dying servers a bad thing? And why is it even your business?

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I’m so sick of everyone not realizing this rogue is Bigsmooth. Its always been Bigsmooth, ever since day one Bigsmooth has been scheming the running this server. Did you really think Valimare was always starting sh!t with us? No, Valimare has been Smooth since the start, so we would focus on Inv ke instead of Smooths tyrannical grasp on Heartseeker. And now he sees his kingdom crumbling around him, and he’s trying to sell off all the spoonfed guildmaster accounts he can before Heartseeker implodes on itself from from cringey buff greifng overload. So you better watch yourselves, Bigsmooth comes for us all, and if you aren’t careful, he’ll come for you next.

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Because it flies in the face of player agency.

I am personally against free transfers. My personal opinion is that they negatively impact far too many people, and only positively impact people who are going to complain no matter what. I do not think they should ever be implement again for the WoW Classic franchise.

An example is Heartseeker, which was a fine, healthy, low population realm prior to free transfers bringing the people it did.

50/50 servers already exist, and at this stage of the game, anyone who actually wants that, should already be on one.

For the same reason it is anybody’s who is on this forum. We pay a subscription to be part of the community.

To bad the players wouldnt know how to PvP tho. (Carlton dance gif) why cant i link gifs! fix ur shlt blizzard.

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Bigsmooth, where?!

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Just do like the one guy said and pay the $25 to xfer. Leave my server alone.

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They already happened, and the damage has already been done.

Imagine if for one week Blizzard offered free transfers from any server to any server. Your position is that if anyone takes these transfers, and if any server gets ruined as a result, it is the fault of “the players” alone.

Is that what you actually believe? Or are you just taking a principled stance against transfers, and don’t care whatsoever, or even have contempt for the people on Heartseeker/Stalagg/Skeram/Incendius/etc?

Lolwut?


It’s an interesting type of conversation where you tell someone what their opinion is, and then question it.


If you’re interested in my opinion, go ahead and read my comments.

My argument and stance is pretty coherent, I think you all should either be stuck on your server you chose to be on or pay to xfer off. These servers have been out for 2 years, if you are unhappy by all means xfer off at your expense.

I have said this throughout this whole topic, not sure why it’s incoherent?

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I’ve read your comments, but they lack logic. There is no functional difference between a free transfer and a paid transfer. They could theoretically have exactly the same outcome. Incendius was originally ruined by paid transfers.

Whether someone transfers off for free, or has to pay Blizzard to transfer, it doesn’t on its own change the outcome. Thus if free transfers are bad, then paid transfers are bad.

The only reason paid transfers are different than free transfers, is that the vast majority of players are unwilling to pay. So I’m a bit confused why you’re advocating for people paying to transfer.

You don’t actually want them paying to transfer, you want them to suffer.

I oppose. The heartseeker alliance are a bunch of babys that can barely handle 5 horde on the entire server. They are going to explode if all of a sudden there is 2000

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Indeed. I am not a proponent of transfers in any capacity.

Hmm. I’m confused why you’re advocating sushi on ice-cream, but I guess to each their own :woman_shrugging:

Ah! That’s an interesting thing to suggest! Players have agency. They have used it, and natural faction balance and populations have developed across servers.

If I had rolled on Heartseeker or Skeram because I enjoy the faction balance and population styles they have, and then Blizzard said, “Nope. You should play like others play elsewhere, but where you decided explicitly not to play.” I wouldn’t feel happy.

Nobody has to suffer when there is player agency. We are free to play where we want.

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