Massive stutters with DF client

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3070 OC 8GB VRAM
I7 - 11850
16 GM RAM GDDR4
NME SSD

I hope we get an update on the stutter eventually, I can deal with reduced overall performance at the cost of game development/enhancement. It’s the substantial and random frame drops to new .1% lows that’s killing me.

Generally ran all of shadowlands between 125-144 FPS. Which still seems to be the average case but random dips to 30-50 FPS is really jarring when playing when stuttering through keys/raiding.

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Hey everyone,

Thank you so much for providing the requested information and attempted solutions tried. This issue is high priority and work continues to be done to implement a fix.

We’ll share updates in the thread as soon as they are available. We appreciate your patience and apologize for the inconvenience, as I know that it can be considerable in situations such as this.

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553

I hope the dev team can fix it soon! I miss to play the game like i used to, without fps drops and things.

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Click to Expand: Solutions for Lag / Stuttering / Micro-Stuttering on Win 11 21H2 / 22H2 
Nvidia: Lower performance after upgrading to Microsoft Windows 11 2022 Update -> https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5395


Windows 11, version 22H2 known issues and notifications -> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-22h2

Compatibility issues with Intel Smart Sound Technology drivers and Windows 11 -> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-22h2#compatibility-issues-with-intel-smart-sound-technology-drivers-and-windows-11

SSL/TLS handshake might fail -> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-22h2#ssl-tls-handshake-might-fail


Windows 11, version 21H2 known issues and notifications -> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-21h2

SSL/TLS handshake might fail -> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-21h2#ssl-tls-handshake-might-fail

Compatibility issues with Intel Smart Sound Technology drivers and Windows 11 -> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-21h2#compatibility-issues-with-intel-smart-sound-technology-drivers-and-windows-11


Manage suggested actions in Settings -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-suggested-actions-on-your-pc-486c0527-3395-4b40-b304-f1e3cbe2f404

Select Start  > Settings  > System  > Clipboard > Suggested actions -> Off

Copy operation sometimes makes Firefox unresponsive on Windows 11 -> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1774285


AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 22.10.3 Release Notes -> https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-10-3

Known Issues:

-> GPU utilization may be stuck at 100% in Radeon performance metrics after closing games on some AMD Graphics Products such as Radeon 570.

-> Stuttering may occur during video playback using hardware acceleration with Firefox on some AMD Graphics Products such as the Radeon RX 6900 XT Graphics.

-> Brief display corruption may occur when switching between video and game windows on some AMD Graphics Products such as the Radeon RX 6700 XT.


AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 22.5.1 Release Notes -> https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-5-1

Known Issues:

-> GPU utilization may be stuck at 100% in Radeon performance metrics after closing games on some AMD Graphics Products such as Radeon 570.

-> Display may flicker black during video playback plus gameplay on some AMD Graphics Products such as the Radeon RX 6700 XT.

-> Using Radeon Super Resolution on 2560x1600 resolution displays may produce a system hang. A temporary workaround is to set the display Scaling Mode to Full Panel.

-> Enhanced Sync may cause a black screen to occur when enabled on some games and system configurations. Any users who may be experiencing issues with Enhanced Sync enabled should disable it as a temporary workaround.

-> Radeon performance metrics and logging features may intermittently report extremely high and incorrect memory clock values.
555

Thanks for the update, glad to hear it’s being worked on.

556

Keep in mind the problems consist of stutters, asset pop-ins, lower fps and 100% gpu usage.

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Less than a week ago, some patches were released for Win 11 22H2 ( aside from the ones you have to get from Nvidia, etc. )

NOTE: If it doesn't show up right away on Windows Update, and you're in a big hurry, you can D/L the Cumulative Updates for Win 11 22H2 manually, and apply them offline.

1.) Create a folder like this: “C:\Patches\Win11\22H2”

2.) Use the following links to download these patches and save them to this folder: “C:\Patches\Win11\22H2”

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5018496 11 -"GDR-DU" -"Dynamic" -"ARM64"

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5018859 11 -"GDR-DU" -"Dynamic" -"ARM64"

3.) Run this Batch file ( Save it to your desktop and name it whatever you want. Example: “Patch_W11_x64.bat” )

@ECHO OFF
REM ----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++
REM Example: Patch / Update an Online Windows 11 Image on a workstation PC
MKDIR "C:\Scrtch"
DISM /Online /ScratchDir:"C:\Scrtch" /Add-Package /PackagePath:"C:\Patches\Win11\22H2\windows11.0-kb5018496-x64_e1cceae929062302b508ca0a601a78326cafb6d7.msu" /PackagePath:"C:\Patches\Win11\22H2\windows11.0-kb5018334-x64-ndp481_8a4e5320b838d4e51f15c84660aed57def73ede7.msu"
DISM /Online /ScratchDir:"C:\Scrtch" /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase
RMDIR /Q /S "C:\Scrtch"
REM ----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++

REM October 25, 2022—KB5018496 (OS Build 22621.755) Preview -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/october-25-2022-kb5018496-os-build-22621-755-preview-64040bea-1e02-4b6d-bad1-b036200c2cb3

REM October 25, 2022-KB5018859 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11 -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/october-25-2022-kb5018859-cumulative-update-preview-for-net-framework-3-5-4-8-and-4-8-1-for-windows-11-1ae3bf79-9c0b-4691-9075-b650fa5545d5

REM Windows 11 update history -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/windows-11-update-history-a19cd327-b57f-44b9-84e0-26ced7109ba9

REM History of Cumulative Updates for .NET Framework for Windows 11 -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/history-of-cumulative-updates-for-net-framework-for-windows-11-b56e9c5b-fc56-49fb-9490-dc09b0b89758

REM ----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++
558

I’m on a Mac and I’m having the stuttering issues too. I turned my graphics all the way down, GPU usage is typically around 75%, but the stuttering gets bad randomly.

559

Many with the issue is on Win 10.

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Thanks for the update. :dracthyr_comfy_blue:

561

Win 7 too.

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NOTE: This one is for patching a Windows 10 22H2 64-bit Image with the .NET 4.8.1 Framework Installed ( you can edit this quite easily based on your needs )

1.) Create a folder like this: “C:\Patches\Win10\22H2”

2.) Use the following links to download these patches and save them to this folder: “C:\Patches\Win10\22H2”

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5020953 10 22H2 -"GDR-DU" -"Dynamic" -"ARM64"

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5018858 10 -"GDR-DU" -"Dynamic" -"ARM64"

3.) Run this Batch file ( Save it to your desktop and name it whatever you want. Example: “Patch_W10_x64.bat” )

@ECHO OFF
REM ----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++
REM Example: Patch / Update an Online Windows 10 64-Bit Image (.NET 4.8.1) on a workstation PC
MKDIR "C:\Scrtch"
DISM /Online /ScratchDir:"C:\Scrtch" /Add-Package /PackagePath:"C:\Patches\Win10\22H2\windows10.0-kb5020953-x64_4f1dc25654f3e3267f8253241d8b792e3522a20b.msu" /PackagePath:"C:\Patches\Win10\22H2\windows10.0-kb5018332-x64-ndp481_f01d306b109506c81b0805112ca892d54eaafec8.msu"
DISM /Online /ScratchDir:"C:\Scrtch" /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase
RMDIR /Q /S "C:\Scrtch"
REM ----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++

REM October 28, 2022—KB5020953 (OS Builds 19042.2194, 19043.2194, 19044.2194, and 19045.2194) Out-of-band -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/october-28-2022-kb5020953-os-builds-19042-2194-19043-2194-19044-2194-and-19045-2194-out-of-band-5b0e9c22-6d38-4ffc-9fe1-7cd83b63f7a7

REM October 25, 2022-KB5018858 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 21H2 -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/october-25-2022-kb5018858-cumulative-update-preview-for-net-framework-3-5-4-8-and-4-8-1-for-windows-10-version-21h2-4e7612d6-17aa-4900-a239-4ad30a44b699

REM Windows 10 update history -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/windows-10-update-history-7dd3071a-3906-fa2c-c342-f7f86728a6e3

REM History of Cumulative Updates for .NET Framework for Windows 10 -> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/history-of-cumulative-updates-for-net-framework-3-5-4-8-and-4-8-1-for-windows-10-version-21h2-4e7612d6-17aa-4900-a239-4ad30a44b699

REM .NET Framework October 2022 Cumulative Update Preview -> https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/dotnet-framework-october-2022-cumulative-update-preview/

REM ----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++----------++++++++++
563

Thanks for the acknowledgement and providing a priority status.

564

I installed these just for fun and issues still persists, so no one else have to get false hopes.

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I was sort of perplexed by your initial request, but I felt sorry for you and didn't want to leave anyone out. It is Halloween and I'm actually NOT celebrating, so I kind of feel bad about that.

I thought I had to do something for some people somewhere. The Windows 10 one has no issues like this actually, so I just made it for the heck of it. For anyone in general:

Windows 10, version 22H2 -> Known issues -> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-10-22h2#known-issues
566

Good to know. With the exception of a few people in this thread who have repeatedly just flat out refused to acknowledge there’s a problem, I think I can speak for most of us when I say we’re looking forward to some performance improvements. Stuttering is the devil for me. I can deal with slightly lower frame rates, but stuttering kills my inner child.

Thanks for keeping us updated! I hope the devs can get to the bottom of this soon.

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So I dont have any studdering issues or general lag, never have had to deal with lag on this game either. But when I try doing lfr raids to get them raid boss kills my game just completely freezes out of the blue (wont come back either) and i have to force close the game because it says its unresponding. No issues in pvp or dungeons, just raid boss fights. And when i reload the game it loads everything for about 2 seconds before freezing all over again. Can move my mouse, tab over to browers, its the game itself.
Pretty annoying as I was hoping to get some gear on alts. Hopefully can figure out a fix for it

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Thanks. Looking forward to seeing this resolved.

569

I’m experiencing this too, it happens in epic bgs as well for me.

570

Every time I open the guild panel (J), FPS drops for at least 5 seconds. That’s normal? It never happened to me before, until patch 10.0. I have already tried every graphic option and deactivated all the addons, and it does not solve it. Any way to clear chat history?
The same goes for the Adventure Guide and Talents panel.

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