Does Blizzard have any plans for this or will abusing the system and targeting continue? I first noticed this when I was in AV doing the R14 grind. I would see calls to mass report people PvPing in the middle as opposed to running to RH (I get the frustration, but getting people banned for PvPing in a Battleground seems a bit absurd). However, now I am noticing Guilds going after other Guilds and people that may have pissed them off one way or another and coordinating mass reporting brigades which has resulted in bans. We had a few officers rage quit our guild and got upset with me for not leaving with them and they have made comments about mass reporting me and other people still in the guild and its just sad thatâs something I have to worry about when I donât break any rules. I really wish Blizzard would do something about this because I see it being abused left and right.
Mass reporting does nothing unless youâve actually broken rules
This was less about reporting in BGs and more about mass reporting for other things. Blizzard uses an automated system where if enough reports come in on an individual player, that person will inevitably be banned without an actual Blizzard GM reviewing the ban/reports. There was an instance where a new guild member of ours told us they critiqued and left another guildâs BWL run and that guild whispered him every single day for a week (he showed us screenshots) with things along the lines of âweâre going to get you banned for being aâŠâ. Eventually he was actually banned for 2 weeks. Luckily he had screenshots of the guildâs harassment, submitted a harassment ticket himself and got it appealed. This was just one a few times that I have seen this happened. I think its a little naive to say that this system canât be abused is such ways.
You are just going to get parrots repeating that you canât get banned automatically, which is true.
But they fail to realize that your reports will get âreviewed by an actual personâ, who will look at your case for all of 2 seconds and click the ban button despite 0 evidence other than the reports. So it may as well be automated.
The only automated actions are the bg AFK timer and silences.
Unfortunately youâre asking us to take you on your word, based off another personâs word. Turtles all the way down. Unless we have a first person account with documentation, this is dust in the wind.
Which would mean that it isnât automated.
At the very least Iâm glad this friend of yours was able to get his ban appealed. Most false actions Iâve seen on the forums are overturned
Best of luck to you,
There are plenty more but you get the idea.
If you get suspended and want clarification on it, make a topic in the CS forums. A blue will most likley shed light on your suspension and clear up any misconceptions.
Personal accountability and Classic WoW players go together like oil and water.
Thatâs quite the leap Jedi
Weâre discussing the realities of player perception/ action systems
Youâre bringing a blog website into this.
Edit: removed a slightly sarcastic endnote
One thatâs been dead for a decade essentiallyâŠ
Itâs in the very first line of the OP:
No, Blizzard does not âhave any plans for thisâ and Yes, âabusing the systemâ will continue.
The Purpose of A System Is What It Does.
Iâll never get enough of people saying that Bliz take a specific action âwith 0 evidenceâ while having 0 evidence (or self awareness) that this is how Bliz handles these situations
I feel like Iâve seen this term a few times on the forums now and it cracks me up just because of how it sounds, but I have to know, what actually is a âblu-hairâ?
Right, but then you leap from that to blue haired people as the reason behind it.
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What Iâm trying to say is your argument doesnât track
Thatâs the thing. My actions donât have any impact on other people, but their actions do.
My evidence is the fact that they do not use in game gmâs to witness people actually breaking tos. They have confirmed themselves that they use a combination of in game reports and internal algorithm data.
I believe they should use this data to investigate and witness the person doing the act, but they donât. They instead use that data to enact bans without further investigation.
Is it more efficient, yes.
Will it save them money? Yes.
Will it inevitably falsely ban a small fraction of innocent players? Yes.
Is that acceptable? No. Not to anyone with a brain.
Agree with the OP.
And where did they confirm that someone will
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i love howâŠ
âevery single gold buyer / gold seller or botter or a person who afk in bgâs or sharing his/her account or they insult others in chatâ
When they get banned? they claim mass reporting got them banned for no reason.
The simple fact that any innocent person gets banned is confirmation.
Thatâs why they have the appeal system in the first place
Yes. Appeal process should be for mistakes made by humans, not mistakes made by algorithms that a human didnât catch in their brief review.
Instead itâs an unnecessary tax on paying customers when a false ban happens simply because they donât want to give the process the time and care it actually deserves in order to save a buck.
Emphasis mine
Looking into reports and checking logs is the investigation. I understand that you disagree here but that divide seems the issue here.
Since GMs are human it would be unrealistic to expect perfection. People make mistakes at their jobs, itâs a fact of life. You can and should appeal an action if you feel Blizz has made a mistake, however you may not get the answer you wanted.
Bans are handled by humans. Appeals are handled by humans. If you have substantial credible evidence otherwise I (and most of the CS regulars) would be thrilled to see it.
AFK timers in BGs and temporary silences are automated though. But can be avoided by participation and non-toxicity respectively
Best of luck!