The spec finally has synergy and feels fluid as of the last two patches in TWW. Streamline and explosive shot make it feel complete and feel good to use every time. Removing them is going to make the spec feel sluggish. Replacing explosive shot’s functionality with a slow, ground targeted volley is especially daunting and is going to feel terrible compared to how snappy explosive shot → aimed shot felt to combo.
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The spec is the best it has ever felt I love mm hunter now and of course they are going to dumpster it for no reason. Going into a new expansion you paid a bunch of money for should be exciting. Instead now im dreading it.
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I completely agree with everything said in this thread so far!
MM feels better than ever rn. Midnight is a huge downgrade
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Ditto. I feel MM is finally in a good place and I’m enjoying the class alot. Midnight is going to completely change how it plays. It’ll be just another stand still and TRY to cast for 3 seconds. Having to do all your damage in a 2 minute CD Trueshot window is going to make things clunky at best.
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anyone who doesn’t play MM is glad because were over getting 2 shot by this spec from another state while they run at warp speed 
Great, change it in pvp and leave pve alone. I never mentioned pvp lol
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They should remove trickshots and make explosive shot the defacto aoe spell. Trying to hit aim for aoe in a fast group is pointless.
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The “long cast that is worth the wait” idea is the flaw in the logic. Not sure where they got that idea, but in 21 years of playing this game, maining Hunter the entire time, I’ve never felt like that about Aimed Shot.
It’s been made the key skill for Marksmanship. We are meant to be casting it all the time. It’s part of our rotations and tons of our gameplay is based around it. Not sure if it’s changed in Alpha, but 2 charges with a 12 second cooldown means that they intend for us to spend literally half our time in combat doing nothing more than casting this spell? Six seconds out of every 12 standing still.
That doesn’t scream “fun” or even “worth the wait”.
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Blizzard does not PVP in their own game. These changes are all arbitrary nonsense and I’m probably going to quit again like I did during Legion when they nuked half our abilities.
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im overcome with irony when i see this post from a DH
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In wod the tier set made ained instant and it always felt sooooo good to play. You were limited on focus, not arbitrary charges, and not time.
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No problems here, other than the aimed shot cast being a little too long.
Literally only needs tweaks from current mm, not whatever tf they have going on alpha.
Just make multishot always trigger trick shots and leave it unchanged from now and i’m happy
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You forget that they have literally re-worked MM every expansion since Legion.
They should make Volley baseline 30 sec cd and with the talent that gives LnL proc (midnight talent) we basically get the Explosive Shot gameplay as live, but with Volley.
DH isn’t out here hitting for 15 mil from an instant cast ability with 2 charges XD
Just want to second this. I can maybe understand why they removed streamline but removing explosive shot and all it’s interactions? Really? After they just baked in the season 2 tier set into the talent tree and made it so much more satisfying. I really hope they reconsider removing it.
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Not just explosive shot, but they removing tar trap, implosion trap and (I think) freezing trap as well. While those trap things didn’t really boost my damage, they certainly helped out giving me some useful utility.
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I also want to note that other classes aoe got a choice talent for their aoe to be targeted or placed… all exect hunters Volley.
Blizzard, Flamestrike, Rain of Fire etc, all got a choice but we dont :))))
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They did kinda bake the explosive shot interactions into volley, with having volley proc LnL and shoot out 2 explosive shots on a 45 sec cd. You have to chose between CD reduction on Volley to turn it into a 30 sec cd and LnL proc 