They have a vision, they own the game, and they don’t need a better reason than
If you would like to know more, I am sure @Kaivax could answer it for you in that thread.
thats not a reason to remove the option
ITs a reason to make a rework, they could still elft the pet as option for those who want
Appeal to authority fallacy? rly? that quickly? 
He doesn’t need to, there is why we have threads to give feedback, saying it was a mistake and they need to give the option back
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So ask them. I don’t work for Blizz.
took 680 posts before I suggested it.
You are the one demanding a reason from someone who does not work for Blizz, but refuse to ask the person who works for Blizz. Now I know you are just here to fight. You couldn’t care less about this topic. You just want to argue.
Im already doing that, you think we shouldn’t, thats the difference
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no? i said they had no reason to remove the option
Says who? you? literally the one here to argue? 
You said you didnt care though?
“accuse then of what you do!”
Yet your reply was to me.
I said nothing about validating feelings. You said you don’t care about our opinions, yet you keep engaging with us and oftentimes confrontationally. I have not thrown insults nor called you a troll.
I called another user a troll, because they are one, not because of their view on the change.
You’ve expressed it. If you don’t care about compromise, then your opinion has been noted and you will gain nothing by arguing with the rest of us who do see there being value in it.
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Are you though? Seems like you want ME to give a reason. Ok… here’s a reason.
Those of us who play MM Hunter in Heroics and Raids always swap to Lone Wolf and ditch the pet. Now we don’t have to. If we want a pet, we have two other pet specs to pick from. If I want to have a pet, I have 2 choices. If I want no pet and more DPS, I have a choice. You people seem to think you have no choices. I just showed you common sense choices, but because ONE spec is getting altered, you are acting like the class is completely hosed.
They explained why they were making the changes. But their explanation was not good enough for you, so now, feeling completely powerless in the face of incoming change, your only option seems to be attacking people with an opposing opinion and an indifference to the pets removal from one of three specs.
All I have done is offer my opinion. Unlike you and the other “upset” individuals who have to resort to insults.
I don’t care about your opinion, of me or this game. I do care about offering my perspective to Blizz since they have asked for feedback.
Me responding and defending myself to your attacks is not arguing. I also refuse to argue since it is a clear violation of the code of conduct, and I like having my thread open for discussion. I also appreciate you and Rae helping keep it at the top of the PTR Discussion forum.
To tell you I was not talking to you.
I don’t. But Blizz does. So express them. Just stop badgering me to agree with them.
There’s no need for compromise. BM hunter can run a single tanking pet. Survival can run a single tanking spec. MM is getting an eagle, and I am prefectly ok with it.
You were telling me that you were talking to someone else, when you replied to me with:
Your statement is incoherent. If you were talking to Syegfryed, then you should have replied to them, not to me. Nor is your statement understandable on it’s on:
“I was replying to you to tell you I was not talking to you when I replied to you.”
And I go back to: Then why are you still here, responding to those of us who do?
The arguments would stop if one side stopped responding. We care passionately about this change, so yes, we’re going to continue to argue against it. You appear to care enough to argue back.
In your opinion.
We disagree and will continue to provide that feedback, both here in the forums and on the PTR.
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Did you mean “own”?
I have every right to be here, and I only respond to people who quote me as though they are talking to me.
Everything we say on this forum is an opinion. Unless it’s Blizzard. Their game, their design, their rules. We can have an opinion. They have the final say.
Please do. And when this change goes live, I will be sure to thank them for not caving in and sticking to a re-design that makes sense to them, and to me.
Yes, I did… for some reason, I didn’t see the typo when I wrote it. Oof.
Your deliberate cutting off the second half of the sentence is an example of an dishonest interlocutor. Reread the whole sentence.
Got it, you are of the view that “Something that doesn’t hurt me, but helps others is bad.” Thank you for admitting you are spiteful individual.
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I believe this to be a misleading statement. Not all “pet” spec choices are… equal.
One is a melee pet spec and the other is ranged… but different. I tried melee SV in Legion for a year. Then decided playing a real (my subjective opinion) melee class was more interesting and fun. Feral/Bear, Arms/Prot, Unholy/Blood, Ret/Prot are all, to me, more interesting to play than SV hunter.
SV is, to me, more like Unholy DK. With the drawback of having less sustain and without the option of swapping to a real tank spec. (Blood)
BM is a ranged pet spec. It plays and feels (subjectively, to me) different than MM. Whereas with MM the pet is an “extra” that brings utility, BM weights the pet(s) a lot more. After 11.1 goes live, BM will be the only ranged pet spec for hunters. So over the last few years Hunter has gone from 3/3 ranged pet specs to 1/3.
In addition, my understanding was that in order to get the most out of BM you had to run an Exotic pet. Maybe that has changed. I’m not sure. That requirement meant you couldn’t just swap from MM to BM and keep your faithful companion. [1]
One nice thing about the current 11.1 PTR BM hunter build is that the “bonus” pet for BM is an option. (Two pets out is not better than one pet out. For me. 
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[1] - The “companion” is just pixels on a screen. If a person cares only about the spreadsheet damage output of the class/spec they are playing, the fact that the pixels are present or not, or even different, is irrelevant. I get that. Lot’s of people have a bond with the visual aesthetic of the pet exploring the world with them. Losing that is like losing an appendage. People can scoff at that, but it is what it is.
Edit - Fix an egregious typo from “SV to MM” to “MM to BM”. Oopsie. 
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Personally imo the Devs shot themselves in the foot with this one .
As usual they didn’t go for the simple solution that would make both MM hunter camps happy. That is by just removing lust /hero from all pets but allowing them to keep their other abilities and also allowing those that like having pets as mm for open world to do so .
Also they could do what they did for MM with Harrier’s Cry (new lust/hero) and made it a class spell instead of a spec spell and made it for all 3 spec. .
Instead they did what they always do and that is the nuclear option , where they go from one extreme to another. To be honest it feels like they have been doing that to hunters since Legion and imo especially to MM and Surv. It feels at times like they are going “we hate hunters and what can we do to get them to stop playingone” .
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Knowing him the reason he has trouble with his pets in M+ is because he leaves them on assist so they pull everything and he uses it the whole time instead of taking it out for lust so it lowers his deeps making it so he isn’t the best in his group .
Then why do you only attack people who want to keep their pets? That’s like the only “opinion” you keep expressing. That we should just accept that Blizzard knows best and that MM is going to lose their pets.
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If someone wants a crash course in MM kiting, spend 3 months doing rated pvp. Main issue with mastering kiting, if the open world non-player enemy is immune to CC it will touch you, hopefully not kill you through defensives and self heals. In dungeons/raids this isn’t an issue as if you as a Hunter end up tanking, something is already going horribly wrong. We’ve had the threads and comments already for weeks talking about wanting to keep tbe pet, how we could keep pets, having pets do no damage but still taunt like a magpie harassing out target. We’ve beaten that dead horse, it is pulp.
Maybe now is a good time to discuss the other 60 MM changes to help ensure they are good in implementation and offer some feels good moments.
Even if you can kite it, that doesn’t mean the game will allow it. A lot of elites that would need to kited also have a pretty short leash before they evade bug back to full health.
Nothing is stopping people from also discussing those changes. Blame Blizzard for bundling it all up with removing the pet because they have to know by now that it would draw the most focus.
Omg, I’ve not seen it, but that sounds like its going to wreck clothies, rofl.
I guess I’m somewhat guilty also for talking about the pet loss too much. Blizzard will do what they choose with the information provided. And the information that pet removal is causing controversy is abundant. I do think other changes are needed with the pet removal, otherwise most of the hunter utility vanishes. Adding ability interactions to have a more interesting rotation is just a bonus, if those abilities are tuned to feel good and be effective.
Almost makes me wonder if they did this to distract the discussion from other things that they want to change under our noses/unnoticed as we would be distracted by the pet argument, curtesy of loudmouths that can’t help but try to paint any one that does or does not want x change as bad, a fool, an idiot, etc.
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if you need 3 months to learn a skill that is expected to be part of the class performance, then the skill isn’t that vital and should be ignored entirely.
No thanks. This issue is my number #1 sticking point.