It’s just as bad into the things it was bad against. It’s laughably strong into the things it was already good into. The tier set features the most toxic component of the marks kit. Rework this spec entirely, please.
tier isn’t that good for MM
Tier is really bad for mm in pve. Proccing deathblow from arcane is a big deal in pvp. Buffing kill shot is a big deal in pvp.
not worth due to loss of vers and mastery due to picking tier gear + its nerfed by half in pvp combat
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maybe marks would feel better if they “changed” it so that turtle’s buff is active as soon as you push the button
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Two of the pieces have vers
tier feels underwhelming, got 2piece today and swear it was proccing once every 15-20 arcane shots lol
I think you are mistaken. You are performing well now.
Developers’ notes: Marksmanship Hunters have been underperforming in different forms of PvP content
Just nerf its physical damage, buff the non-physical components that go through armor, and make them a little less glass and a little less cannon
Ez
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You are laughably overpowered and this spew of nonsense isnt going to sway peoples minds to your favor
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Ifn you think MM hunter tier is bad…wait till you try SV hunter. We in the same boat. Without the incipient buffs as well.
why does every casual player genuinely believe this
losing between 2-5% vers is so insignificant for literally every spec in the entire game
there’s specs that genuinely gain more benefit from the 3-5% mastery forsure
but man we’re already at the point where most specs would be better off crafting a haste/mastery ring to reduce the absurd versatility bloat the gladiator gear has on it
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My personal experience has been that the game doesn’t really make it especially obvious that you would want less vers (especially with just how much is on conquest gear), and nobody told me otherwise until I took part in a similar discussion as this. Math is also not my favorite thing so I don’t usually theorycraft 
With the way crafted gear works this season and all the guides coming out + streamers doing their thing, maybe it will become more widely known? Probably copium
the fix for the vers bloat would be 
reforging
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