Orcs didn’t become demons that killed or enslaved every planet they have ever found with the exception of Azeroth.
Gnomeborgs.
Resistance is futile, cease attempts to punt.
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They would have to deal with all the people who can abide the Alliance not being right in everything.
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Got forcefully pulled back, if we didn’t intervene they were absolutely going to slam that “kill em all” button.
The Rebellion Mechagnomes are fine but they were tiny in number
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Yeah, because Ner’zhul failed lol. They certainly tried.
Skill issue. This just means that the Man’ari are smarter and better than the orcs (no surprise here lol).
bro is fortnite emoting over having the better genociders
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If they even remember Draenei exist. Now that the heritage questline is out of the way it’s possible that the Draenei may never be relevant ever again.
Which is sad because I kind of like them. They’re like Night Elves except they’re actually interesting.
The player MAKES it make sense. That’s why it’s called 'ROLEPLAYING".
Blizzard is the ultimate authority on whether something is canon or not. IF they make it as a choice, then it’s canon, and all your would-be gatekeeping doesn’t change that.
But you do have an out if you’ve decided that another person’s character fatally breaks “your immersion”.
It’s called the /ignore function.
But keep this in mind. Roleplayers aren’t Blizzard’s target market, they never were. The original Warcraft game was not made for roleplaying, it was simply Command And Conquest, but it was THE game of it’s era.
Those wargamers were and still are Blizzard’s main target audience. They do toss bones at us every now and then, but they won’t let your indignation deny the mass player base a choice.
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I’m reminded of a clip from Brooklyn 99.
“Cool motive, still a murder.”
Except replace murder with multiple planet-spanning genocides, soul-based atrocities we don’t have names for, and attempted omnicide.
You have to do something with them, and it seems more practical to let them struggle to tip the karmic scales back with endless labor, no matter how minute it amounts to, than to just destroy them in the nether and let new demons who will not have such penitent desires form from the ashes of their fel consumed souls.
“On one hand you all personally spent thousands and thousands of years aiding and abetting cosmic scale genocide, on the other, you gave me a pretty cool rock”
Hatuun and the Krokul proved there was a third option between blind compliance and death, even if it was not an easy or safe one.
Like I’ve said before, this all would have gone down easier if the Manari in question were willing to turn on the Legion when we invaded, not years after the fact when the nightmare organization they were a part of collapsed.
Here’s the tricky part. You’re entirely right, but letting them reintegrate is a whole nother manner. I know they’re watched under full guard in-lore and there’s not actually a flood of Manari given full keys to the Alliance war machine, but this is a process that should take years if not centuries to get to where we are now given Draenic lifespans.
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We dont really explore the other repentants. So It is really hard to see what the big picture actually is, we Know some of them have been working with hatuun before Velen got on board, but we also could have groups of repentants that have been sabotaging the legion way prior to that, or just have found a way to escape kil’jaeden’s grasp.
I believe there were some that were allied with the illidari during legion too.
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It seems kinda goofy to ever let any of them out on probation in the first place. If everyone can agree that the man’ari can never make up for their crimes, why bother humoring the attempts instead of keeping them locked up?
Whatever community service they could offer could be done by someone else that doesn’t need to have a sniper sight trained on them at all times.
Defeats the whole idea of redemption and the entire point of community service. The idea is that eventually their good deeds outweigh the bad they done.
And not every man’ari was a galactic wide genocider. Many were tricked into serving the legion and by the time they realized it, it was too late.
Sure, the majority are irredeemable, but those types never stopped being loyal to what the legion stood for anyway
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Isn’t the premise of the playables that it’s impossible for their good deeds to outweigh the bad, no matter how long they work?
The premise is that while their crimes might be unforgivable, they still want a chance at making a better place for everyone to live in and Velen is given them a shot at redemption
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Well, Even if they’re unredeemable (I dont think anyone is irredeemable, but thats a personal belief that also applies to stories I engage in). You have very few choices.
1 - death, which is little effect to them, since they will reform in the twisting nether.
2 - death in the TN, which is just permadeath, which while permanent doesn’t really change the situation.
3 - Give them a chance to do some good, either as a way of atoning, or just as tools to be used, either way, they become useful, undying demons ready to help and not complain.
I would, personally, explore the redemption path, If we have Lothraxion, a former demon of the burning legion (and also a former servant of Denathrius and the jailer) as one of our main paladin helpers in Legion, then the path to redeeming any demon of the burning legion is open, sure, that doesnt eliminate the evils of the BL, but the man’ari were part of the machine, not the machine itself, and each individual repentant would have to go trough their individual actions to repent.
Repentance should never be a “can you balance the ledger” thing, it should still be encouraged even if there’s no way in hell you could ever balance it out (See: Planescape torment for a great take on this)
It just rubs me the wrong way that they’re only repentant at the moment its convenient for them, and they’re only truly shown to be sorry towards their former brethren, they’re not making amends to anyone else they’d have hurt (which is basically everyone). It ties into one of my biggest gripes with the Draenei, which is that for “unvarnished good guys”, they sure did think extremely little of the safety of other races when it came to warning them about the imminent danger the Draenei were putting them in.
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Thats a lot of passive aggressive words to say “there is no explanation”