What I said is a reference to the Weird Al song ‘Word Crimes’.
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arzaal has different dialogue for you during the heritage quests, depending on whether you have the man’ari options selected or not. if you do, he says, “ The Prophet says you have been doing good work on behalf of the Penitents.
Thank you. The trust you foster will help us serve the draenei in the future.” which pretty clearly is a reference to activities and good deeds done in the course of adventuring.
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Man’ari should have joined the Horde while maintaining contact with Velen or something.
I don’t believe they looked at the factions and went “Hmm, we have the faction our kin joined when they fled, which is fair, and we have the faction that accepts misfits of all kinds, including those undead people who were forced into a situation and banded together to come to terms with it, green people who gargled demon blood and committed genocide and banded together to do better, and this faction is very accepting of warlocks who want to use dark powers for more useful purposes…Oh and the elves who did fat lines of Fel off a scantily clad person’s unmentionables because addiction and power whose prince was corrupted by Legion nonsense and is trying to do better. Yeah idk let’s join the Alliance”.
Just feels like a thematic miss.
I feel it would be a double edged sword for the horde. Yes, your angle is good, but the angle of “eredar are demons and have done countless terrible things joining the horde without any issue just solidifies the horde as the evil faction”.
While joining the alliance doesn’t exactly erase that, it keeps the horde free from the controversy that exists currently right now, and also creates the thematic exploration of redemption and atonement for the eredar that would not be so easy to be explored in case they went to the horde side.
Man’ari Eredar in the Alliance is the perfect choice when Draenei (Eredar) and Lightforged Draenei are already in the Alliance and they are for salvation. Even Lightforged Draenei accepted a demon in theirs ranks. Velen “forgave” Kil’jaeden too. In the Horde side, I don’t know how Orcs, Blood Elves and Nightborne could forgive them. And it’s better for them to join their kind.
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They wouldn’t. Logically it makes zero sense for those races to forgive the Man’ari. Kil’jaedan was the architect for the corruption of the orcs, the creation of the lich king, which led to Arthas picking of Frostmourne and genociding the blood elves. And the Nightborne fought a civil war against Ellisandre to kick the legion out of Suramar and overthrow their evil queen
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Could use a new customization on the Horde as it’s been a while for them. Maybe Dragonmaw orcs, they come with some pretty hefty baggage like the Man’ari and they’re highly-requested.
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The one old dragonmaw in DF did leave it open for others like him who felt bad for what they and their clan did and wanting to make amends for it.
It’s the perfect opening to use to make them playable
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i mean it would just be another drop in the ocean, people already think that pretty solidly
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“Don’t mind us, yeah we joined the faction that wants you and your people dead, that sheltered the people who sabotaged the Exodar, and turned your Night Elf hosts into homeless, but you’ll still deal with us, right?”
Why would there not be issues. I’d love to see more issues.
Heck yeah, sounds great. Or it would, if we would trust the writers (and forum posters) with a crumb of nuance. Unfortunately…
I prefer to think of it as, “The Dark Alliance grows.”
Cursed Humans (Worgen)
Dark Dwarves (Dark Irons)
Corrupted Elves (Void Elves)
Mad Scientist Gnomes (Mechagnomes)
Demonic Eredar (Man’ari)
Will Blizzard ever DO anything with these races that have some interesting commonality with one another? Doubtful, but it’s still interesting to see how Blizzard’s only thoughts on what to give the Alliance is even eviler versions of it’s existing races.
and regular gnomes are evil
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Honestly, I think Man’ari have the potential for the greatest storytelling in recent memory.
“I stepped away from their blood when it touched my hooves.”
-Arzaal’s memory stone
I’ve had the inclination to write a fanfiction about this since the questline debuted. I don’t know that I’ll ever get around to it. But I can just see it in my head.
A civilization grown so powerful that the only person that could offer them anything was a God. A schism of ascetics versus their contemporaries. 2/3s of the population siding with Archimonde and Kil’jaedin while Velen takes the minority to the hinterlands to pray and wait out societal collapse. I can imagine the rapture, awe, and terror of actually finally seeing Sargeras, and the bedlam than ensues after the total destruction of a society and its reforging into a war machine for the Fel. That rubicon moment when those who followed the Sargerei realize that they’ve fallen prey to a cult, that they had gone along until now thinking this was all normal until a moment of realization hits them, as their cities are burned down and twisted into dark spires that none of this is normal.
And now the fallout of that is those who managed to survive this long, following the Legion have to find something to do with their lives despite every horrible thing they’ve been party to, directly or indirectly. And not just on a small scale. On a galactic scale. How does someone cope with that? How can you go on? What does the life of a Penitent or rogue demon look like?
There’s so much potential. There is so much complexity and depth available in this story. So much tragedy. I need a good novel about this. It might be the first and only WoW novel that I buy.
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Standard gnomes aren’t that sane.
Actually mechagnomes are the sane ones in the room. They’ve been pushed to the abyss of horrortech and pulled back
They literally amputate their arms and legs (and possibly more such as their eyes) to become closer to mechanical perfection. They’re mad scientist gnomes.
children of the Omnissiah plays in the backround
Yes but their mad king threatened to remove their very souls as well… and they pushed back. Standard gnomes haven’t shown any sign of developing caution in their inventions
I hate they used the term Mechagnome for the Allied race. That was already in use circa WotLK. They should of stuck with Junker Gnome.
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Cybergnome fits better.
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