It’s gaming the system, just saying. Perhaps it’s not a good idea to post this upon the forums, along with others, so Blizzard finds out, and puts in counter measures.
Keep the quiet things, quiet.
I’ll just get the LFR transmog in 8 years or whatever it takes to do legacy content by then
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Let me make sure I understood this…
A high level, super great, alpha male player wants his virtual Barbie doll to have all the prettiest looking accessories - and we, his lessers, should allow him to take gear we need, because he is carrying us.
Just checking, thanks.
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Lfr just seems like a purposeful dumpster fire at this point. Its like they actively don’t want anyone who knows what they’re doing to be there.
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Transmog is a good enough reason to run LFR and regardless of someone’s intent for the gear that drops, everyone who participates in the LFR run should have an equal opportunity to roll for the gear. Period.
People are not running LFR for charity. Everyone has the equal opportunity to gear up beyond what LFR has to offer and they don’t even have to do more difficult content.
It is insane that they would prevent people from rolling for gear because their iLvl is too high. That to me, is a weird punishment for playing the game.
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Yeah, I seen a few posts too. It almost discouraged me from trying it myself. How wrong I would have been!!
Rolled need on things I needed, never got flak once. Got some great advice from a tank when tanking (sorry, I DID have DBM but it was disabled. Thanks for your advice and patience! Appreciated the raid warnings to taunt).
Been running LFR regularly as tank and dps. It’s not the toxic soup some claim it to be. Are there fools? Yes. They announce themselves. But a vast majority are chill, good people looking for fun, not a fight.
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I think it’s high time Bliz stops mucking around and just make it completely fair across the board. Almost completely.
Drop all the dang loot in a big claw game, and just let people use gold to play it till they pull out the piece they are looking for. I suppose this system would need some kind of catch and release type mechanic so folks don’t accidently overload their bags with epic loots they can’t use. That’d be inconvenient.
It’s fine. If LFR Jimny doesn’t know you are an alt just there for mog for your main, he is none the wiser. Jimmy wasn’t mad about losing the roll, Jimmy was mad about losing the roll to someone he perceived as being ineligible for loot.
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Something tells me we’ll see the return of personal loot in LFR. Folks will still complain but at least then it’s RNG working against them, not other players.
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Nobody is being “punished” or prevented from rolling on gear. You are being prevented from rolling need on gear you cannot use except for cosmetic purposes. The “Need before Greed” group loot system has been around for almost 15 years now and has been the default for LFD dungeons and raids since WoTLK.
Do you have a legitimate claim to the gear because you “helped”? Yes - but so do 24 other people in the raid. Do you have a legitimate claim to need the gear to disenchant it or because you want it for transmog? Nope. Blizzard prioritizes gear going to people who can actually use it because gearing your character up with improved gear is the entire endgame design. In a couple months people are going to just be passing on everything in LFR and this won’t be an issue. The only issue I see are impatient people who cannot wait to have an orange highlight on their gear rather than a white highlight on their gear. They want it NOW and they claim to have a valid argument because they “participated”.
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I was expecting this work around, amazing how PL made all of this a non issue.
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It will always be a fight… They want the gear toons to carry them so they can do their lazy dps while taking the gear they “need” because they want want want.
LFR isn’t hard because of the geared people doing it for the transmog. now we have skilled people in low geared toons attempting to carry the same bad players.
Fix would be making it all Personal Loot and then they can’t complain about not “winning” the gear because the system gave it out… it would also help if they up’d the amount of gear that drops by 1 or 2 pieces to allow more gear flow
in the end people will complain about everything that doesn’t go their way.
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Well sure technically, but:
In almost every scenario there will be a need for the loot so, while not technically 100% prevented, it’s functionally like 95%+ prevented from ever rolling on it, which is practically the same thing.
Then be patient on your ilvl upgrade and tier, simple.
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that’s fine - enjoy running LFR 10 times before you win a drop.
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While it is current tier 9 weeks after the expansions release? Yeah you are right. But you are also ignoring the fact that in a couple of months when the next tier comes out getting your transmog is going to be pretty quick.
I’m not the one complaining about the current loot system. I personally think the loot system as it is now is fine, but then I have played the game long enough to know what the term “ninja looter” means and why the need before greed loot system exists, so maybe my ethics are a bit different than yours.
People will always complain.
Personal loot just makes more happy.
Stupid thing is I cant ever get the Helm to round out my LFR set because I have the higher one. So I will never finish the cool teal blue LFR set on this toon…
I have honestly never thought about gearing up an alt priest.
I have geared up an alt druid enough to run them and have fun running lower level content with him.
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What? No one will be running LFR for Vault in 10.1. They’ll practically be stuck waiting for 3 expansions.
It’s literally designed to reward people for putting in the most minimal effort. It’s probably never been more broken.
Played as far back as vanilla myself.
Your ethics are apparently to create unequal opportunities and take advantage of dedicated people. I’d agree our ethics are very very different.
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This is all that needs to be said; I didn’t read further. Everyone should have equal claim, period. Glad we agree.
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Are you kidding me? For someone who has played since vanilla, you really don’t have a grasp on how long people actually run LFR’s do you?
And yet, people are still clearing it even with that minimal effort. Whether its personal or group loot, you are still getting gear by being 1/25 people in a raid, whether you die 30 seconds into the fight or not.
Unequal opportunities like needing on gear that’s an actual upgrade for someone else so you can look pretty? LFR was cleared before without “dedicated” people, and will continue to be cleared with or without the help of “dedicated” people. Why you and others think you are doing people who run LFR’s for gear favors by queueing is beyond me.
We don’t. But sure if that’s how you want to have a discussion, by all means stop there if it makes you feel right.
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