if you keep them this high dmg, high burst, high utility, at least make them squishy so they can be punished, it force them to go defense stance from time to time, instead of mindless zug zug in battle stance.
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Whirlwind should spin their camera as fast as it spins their whirly blades. Then it applies a haze effect on the monitor for like 20 or so seconds.
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Ok sure, but also make everything else killable then. Every spec in the game has disgusting defensive kits right now.
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This is what bothers me I think the most. I don’t actually mind Warriors doing “BIG DAM”. Maybe not RNG 1 shotting people, but they should do a lot of damage.
What I can’t stand is watching them in the middle of the arena mowing down a target with no fear of death. When I played Frost DK, I had to line casters, kite melee with Chains of Ice often. Warriors just powerbomb into the fight all fight. If they have a good healer, good luck stopping their unpeelable momentum.
I die all the time on my Warrior
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Or or, blade storm roots them in place till it finishes.
100%.
Every class and spec should be a viable kill target. Feel like we can nerf ele, mage, and honestly probably d stance again to where it was in slands. May actually be a good tuning knob for war so they ACTUALLY sacrifice damage for d stance.
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I agree, if they nerfed the durability of certain specs I’d be ok with an extra 30 seconds on sov and divine protection, and maybe removal of Loh in arena. Kind of wild to think we used to only have shield of vengeance, bubble, bop, wog, and no extra passive stuff like dusk or sanctified plates.
We are killable. Very killable.
Everyone calls warriors cry babies when we want buffs. But as soon as warriors aren’t trash everyone starts crying about us 
But dont worry, warrior (arms specifically) is definitely getting gutted after this next AWC bracket. Blizzard hates arms warriors. We won’t be good for long lol
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lol
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Why
Why should they do more damage than others while having lots of cc mobility and defensives?
Whats this stuoid reasoning for “yea they can be the best dps in game who cares amirite”
No they should just be normal like other classes. You dont balance specs with “they do lots of damage so they should be squishy”. Its not 2004. Same stupid argument for not letting hybrids have actual healing or ret/enh MS.
I said they should do a lot of damage. I didn’t say they should stay broken like they are right now. Everyone recognizes Warrior is busted right now. I didn’t think it was necessary to make that a point.
But yes. They are Warriors. They should do chunky DPS. I didn’t mention their mobility here because there are other classes with mobility bloat in the game just the same—namely Mages right now. And it seems they don’t really want to change/rework the mobility kits of classes mid-expansion, so it’s not worth droning on about that. Probably has a lot to do with PvE.
If Warriors were more scared and had to retreat more to recuperate with their healer, rather than full zugging all match with impunity, I think it would give the game a better back and forth feel. At least right now. Making them “squishy” isn’t what I said should happen either. Killable is the better word. Any wider rework ideas obviously aren’t on the menu this season or even this expansion it seems.
Why
You did noy answer why. Why shoukd they do chunky dps (more dps than others wether they are broken op like right now or not)
Why?
Ele and mage truly feel immortal…mage is worse but ele is like insanely tanky. I dont know the spec well enough to comment on whatever changes they have made but its obnoxious
warriors are fine, get good.
honestly not sure why people have threads about balancing. the game is never balanced, the meta shifts. sometimes warriors are the meta. get used to it
Buffs to earth shield and healing stream as well as a strong hero talent tree that allows frequent access to NG!
That and multiple defensive cds between wall, burrow, and earthen bulwark totem as well as grounding+shear which are, like, the two best anti-caster buttons.
What’s your reasoning for ret having some of the best damage currently with holy paladins kit?
The alternative is that Warriors do poor or low DPS. What are you even talking about??? They’re Warriors. They are supposed to be masters of combat. Of course they should do good DPS. But they need to be reined in elsewhere to balance them. I also didn’t say “more DPS than others” you’re making things up.
It’s ironic to me that I’m having this disagreement with a Ret Paladin of all classes. Homie you are just as broken.
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nah warr surv is fine or too low. its not meant to be squishy
its just executing 1 shots at the moment gg
Its not that warrior are unkillable, its they are just not a good target to train. You can train a warrior all match long and you will barely prevent him from doing damage in most case.
So you are better off training a target that will have to stop dealing damage in order to survive like a warlock, elem or Mage.
You can let the warrior do his thing, if you prevent his mage from playing his game you will win.
If you chose to train that warrior hard, that mage will roll on your team like a buldhozer.
That and the fact warrior have low skillfloor. It take minimal awarness to survive and opener.