There’s nothing to get, you’re terrible at communicating. 
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wait…there is tier in this expansion?
all i get is cloaks.
RNG sucks.
They should have opened the catalyst already this week or last week and just made the cooldown 2 weeks for awhile.
I’ve seen multiple groups now for M15’s that has a note saying pm me your tier pieces.
You either have the tier by sheer luck or overgear it by 20 ilvls + have a much higher io than required for 15’s or you’re not getting an invite and thats exactly what the OP is talking about.
You don’t need tier for 15’s yet everyone is expecting it…you got OP at 2500+ rocking a 1 piece.
I think a lot of people are missing the point of the post imo. Is 6 weeks entirely too long? Maybe not (it’s going to end up longer than 6 weeks though since raid has been released). In my opinion, it is. But… the point is that people can have 4-set by the end of week 2 (maybe even week 1 depending on vault?) and others could not see pieces for weeks. Even with consistent raiding. The vault is great when you get good RNG but it feels bad when everyone else gets bis’d out stuff and you’re stuck choosing between small upgrades or necks that everyone wears crafted anyways.
The catalyst was a way to even this out and provide people who get pooped on by the RNG god’s a chance to stay relevant and be able to look forward to knowing they can get tier with an end in sight.
I understand the argument of “you just want tier right away so you can play something else” but it feels like this is coming from people who have been blessed with tier or RNG jesus in their vaults, not people who have had to sit and watch themselves lose rolls on tier week after week, potentially get passed up in raid for tier, and get nothing in their vault.
Most people want upgrades in a game. That’s how it works. And it sucks being weeks behind everyone else with the gearing process.
I have my 4 piece on this priest.
I think the catalyst should be opened early
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For a lot of people its, I’ve been raiding every week since the release of raid and have 0-1 pieces. Now I don’t get invited to many of the pug keys because some uninformed people require 4 piece for their 15 keys.
It doesn’t reallllly matter if you’ve got friends to play with like myself + OP both rocking 1 piece but I can see pugs really struggling and being rejected because they’ve gotten unlucky.
Now you need the ilvl AND the io AND the tier to be on an even playing field with everyone else unless you’re way ahead of the curve.
A community is the game. Saying “just be different” has mad “you think you do but you don’t” energy. The groups gating the content wont exactly be rare soon…as soon as more people get 4p they expect everyone else to be there as well.
Tier is literally not the definition of being fully geared up. It’s the floor level of gearing nowadays, but the catalyst is acting like its the ceiling.
I do make my own groups. I do run with my friends. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem here.
Yeah this horse has been beaten over and over. Catalyst should come out around now as 3 weeks of the season have passed. Only thing people can do is keep bringing it up I guess.
Yes I want welfare tier sets right away for everyone, and then we can improve the ilvl over the patch using ilvl to satisfy the rpg element.
And no, tier sets should not be eliminated. They fill out two incredibly important roles that have nothing to do with player power. First, they allow bliz to introduce spec variety patch to patch testing out new ideas for the specs moving forward. Second, they allow bliz to design the cosmetics of the tier tying the look to the class for the season.
Tier sets should not be a source of player progression in patches anymore outside of the first couple of resets of the patch. Item level fills that niche all on it’s own.
Go back to personal loot group loot sucks
This isnt give us loot, it’s give us access to gearing progression that others have gotten lucky to get or gotten funnelled for tier. It harms no one being able to make a tier piece every two weeks or week a bit earlier on. It’s a game, they’re supposed to be fun and rewarding.
Tier is literally 10%+ damage on a lot of damage roles in aoe. That is insane on a fort week for how much time you’d take off.
I just want my vaults to stop giving me 1 or 2 necklaces every week. Luckily my third item for the past two weeks has been a tier piece.
I have been raiding since vault released. I have exactly one piece of tier to show for it, which came from a vault reward. I have seen the tier token drop for my class a grand total of once since release.
If you know anything about BM hunter then you know not having the 2pc is brutal, 4pc seems like a pipe dream at this point. Guess I’ll just keep praying to the great vault gods to take pity on me.
the M+ community isn’t the game… the community of players who are currently gating M+ are elitists who have to have everything their way and only their way. I get pushing content and being competitive but 2p/4p won’t make or break a key.
Cant we all find people in this thread to run with so it doesn’t feel gated lol bet they would love that…
Tier set is pretty important for Arms PvP.
Having PvP power locked being RNG gearing mechanics is what we have been trying to get away from this expansion, yet here we are.
This is a bad system. Open the creation catalyst now, and try to figure out a new solution for Season 2.
It’s only been three weeks. Why are people expecting a full set of tier gear? It’s bad enough pugs are already expecting you to have AOTC. But this “Give me all the gear now” mentality is ridiculous.
Kids these days are so impatient.