Make tier available to the people who have been getting unlucky in vaults and raid already

Again, for the 10th time. I admitted to it at the start and pointed out that your wording was not clear. Doesn’t mean it’s apology worthy.

I got all day.

But my wording was clear yet you didnt get it… Its okay, we make mistakes, just admit to them and move on.

Its a simple as “Yes I misquoted you, my reading comprehension is bad, please forgive me”

but we are going to have to take a break in 15, I am hungry…

It wasn’t clear, that’s how we got into this.

It was very clear, you just missed it by a mile. Its okay, we get it, you have a problem with reading the forums sometimes. It happens. I even made two post about it which I take it you had problems with simple English there as well but I wasn’t going to bring that up,

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I did misread it, we already discussed that. It doesn’t change that your post was unclear and poorly worded.

No… Sorry… I am glad we are getting somewhere with you admitting to your fault but you are not going to try and blame me for your shortcomings.

It was established at the start.

Do I need to requote that mess of a run-on?

i didn’t get tier in vault…nor did a single druid tier piece drop from LFR…
creation catalyst please?
:melting_face:

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My dude, look at his/her profile. Score isn’t the issue here.

It was a you as in people in general, not the OP personally. Also OP is talking about alts, who might not have a score that stands out.

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my tier set is roughly a 13% dps increase at 4pc. I do an avg of 50k dps across a +16 key, if we fail the key by 40s like we did with my HoV +16 earlier, that 4pc on me alone would have been enough to pass the key, 103m overall damage, extra 12m is massive. Put that on all 3 dps and it is EASILY going to be the difference between timing and failing a key in the 16+ range. Set bonus on tanks is pretty close to irrelevant (5% dmg done/-5% dmg taken for guardian) and same goes for heals. Only for dps does it have a relevant “have tier or no invite” value to it. Yet blizz decided to make people wait until the end of time to get their set pieces, meanwhile people who aren’t completely shafted on luck will be significantly ahead by then. Beyond trash luck in raids on tier pieces dropping, if you don’t even raid then just RIP

You are more than welcome to requote the original sentence you quoted.

Fair enough, but tier is still essential. If you don’t have it then you are in an inferior position. The catalyst should have been available from day 1 so we could start building charges, this timegating is foolish.

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I have cleared every possible tier drop opportunity, and my raid still has 6 people on my tier token without 4 piece. Some barely got 2 piece at the very end of last week. Not opening the catalyst as soon as the patch drops is a huge mistake. Gaining 4 piece is not a fun gear progression system. It is only frustrating. Allowing everyone to get 4 piece early and then progress their ilvl is significantly better.

It’s absolutely ridiculous to me that given blizzards track record recently of accessibility that this made it to the live game.

And 3 more weeks after that to get your 4th piece :upside_down_face:

It’s not though. Tier in Dragonflight is no where near how impactful it was in Shadowlands. Are you disadvantaged, sure. However, it’s not “essential” since the rank 1 Prot Paladin has 0 pieces.

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One of the few major L’s this expansion, OP. If you’re not a raider you either get lucky or you wait. Terrible system.

I’m hoping the vault gives me shoulders or a helm when I get home today. Gonna be a hard choice if it’s a good trinket or 4pc.

I just wish they would buff the drop rates in raid on tier pieces.

the main issue i have with this entire 6 week time gate is that it clearly illustrates blizzard devs are out of touch with how their players are behaving.

Tier on its own is not going to necessarily dictate how successful you are on a run (we saw evidence of that in week 1 & 2), but players are going to start gatekeeping with “list tier” groups.

earlier weeks, you didn’t see those as often, but i saw several of the +20’s doing it already…

if blizz has a good reason for gating the creation catalyst for 6 weeks, they would have mentioned why they believe it’s damaging to the game to release on week 1 or 2…i mean it can still be limited via charges, so idk why it shipped this way.

i’m really upset that nobody with a “voice” in the community challenged the devs on this in beta…i knew it would be a problem, but the devs clearly did not. :100: