As a Man’ari Draenei I approve! Let us teach the Alliance in the ways of villainy! You think the Horde was bad… Wait to we, their former MASTERS teach you in the ways of evil… Gul’dan may have read the book, but Kil’jaeden wrote it! Now that the Alliance is full of man’ari draenei, night elven warlocks, void elves and various undead darkfallen… Let us enlighten you all with E.V.I.L!
That’s literally my point. Blizzard COULD do something ‘evil’ with these characters but choose not to because Alliance Good™
Disliking Baine =/= Disliking tauren in general.
It is not even an argument at this point. If Blizzard would ever write the Alliacne to the extends what they did to the Horde before all MHPs would quit the game instantly.
Making the Alliance evil has got to be one of the most based takes I have ever heard. I’m down.
Either that or they’d fully lean into the fantasy of wanting to wipe the Horde off Azeroth completely under the guise of seeming righteous.
Nah, we’re past this point. We don’t need any good/evil factional narratives anymore. The time for this was a while ago, and it passed.
They don’t need to make the Alliance evil, even the smallest steps to being less lawful and more warmongering is enough to get people shrieking endlessly. Alliance leaders can’t even be mean without it being blown up out of proportion or complained about, often by more Horde-centric players.
The writers believe that a strong reaction=good writing. When you have people unironically calling the Purge of Dalaran the same level of destruction as Southshore, they don’t need to do anything more than that.
- The Alliance enslaved pandaren citizens in order to build a military airbase in Jade Forest while lying to their mayor about the purpose of the base.
- They put the orcish people into concentration camps and treated them horribly.
- Jaina and the Alliance forces purged Dalaran of the Sunreavers who had every right to stay within the city (it was simply because we hated them).
- They sunk a neutral goblin vessel as they fled Kezan.
- The Stormpikes try to drive the Frostwolves out of their new home in Alterac simply for the natural resources found there, and simply for the sake of retaking Alterac.
The saddest part is all that is pretty mundane compared to some of the things the horde did
Maybe not for everyone
In theory, I like this.
In practice, maybe I’m getting old, maybe everything happening in Real Life has somewhat dulled my desire for stories about bloodshed, maybe I just saw Cata, MOP, and BFA and I absolutely do not think I have another go-around on the Warcrime Carousel in me (no matter who starts it this time).
But seriously, faction war, surely the third time will be the charm… I do not have faith in it.
Oh my 'lanta.
The Kor’kron loyalist RPers but human paladins instead of orc warriors. Not sure who we’d sub in for the weirdly enthused blood elves.
Probably void elves.
Scratch that, I’m ABSOLUTELY not ready for another round of Atrocity Bingo, even if it’s the blueside edition this time.
Yeah, as much as I want a bit of nuance to the Alliance (Internal conflict, differing ideals etc.) I would rather them just stay insufferably unscathed than have to be dragged through another one of Blizzard’s ‘morally grey’ writing disasters.
Having them go full ‘evil’ at this point would just be a mess for a multitude of reasons.
Ironically, this attitude represents one way. The Alliance decides to go all in on their acceptance of the concept of racial guilt. They decide they have the right to “punish” “the Horde” for something that Sylvanas decided. That they can kill people who had nothing to do with it because they are the wrong race.
From the initial vote on committing genocide against the Orcs to Jaina belief that she had a right to kill Orc babies, the Alliance has toyed with this without Blizzard ever really acknowledging it. It could be time for the Alliance to take a look at who they are.
Correctly, you the player can make them not look evil/look like high elves(because people wanted high elves but that is another discussion entire).
However the generic void elves are purple/can have tentacles and these things we associate with the void/old gods.
They won’t do this. It’s a cool idea to have the alliance as the baddies, but they are trying to remove the rivalry aspect. I think they are working towards the future we saw with high king anduin leading Azeroth as a whole.
Actually, that was unnecessarily snarky and probably unneeded.
Anyway.
I may be ready for a kinder, more peaceful future but I will chew my monitor in actual half if Anduin by-our-lady Wrynn takes over as the leader of the united Horde Alliance.
Even the generic ones don’t look evil. They just look moody and goth.
As someone else said these were all chump change in comparison to the things Horde were doing, and were not at all comparable.
- In the same expansion Horde were enslaving Pandaren as well, with the use primarily of child labor under the guidance of warlocks and their demons.
- This being after the war of genocide waged on the Alliance races by the Orcs. Also Terenas and the Kirin Tor wanted to cure the Orcs of their blood curse.
- It was not because the Alliance just hated the Blood elves. Varian was literally trying to recruit them at this same time. It was because Thaelin Songweaver used Sunreaver assets in Dalaran to raid Darnassus on behalf of Garrosh in order to get the Divine Bell, a potential WMD.
- This might mean anything if Goblins didn’t routinely blow themselves up for paychecks. But yes, Alliance were clearly depicted in the wrong here because they’re going after WORLD SHAMAN Thrall.
- Frostwolves also be driving out the Winterax tribe. Pretty sussy if you ask me.
Surely there are better examples…? Honestly, I’m surprised you didn’t mention the sixteen quintillion lost at Taurajo.
Even if some of such things are morally compromised, they’re not outright morally objectionable as we might see the Horde doing. That was the issue.