Make remote desktop against ToS

i dont know what ques are…pick a diff server its not hard. you legit are paying money to sit in que…

that’s awesome lol

It’s literally unenforceable unless the said players use it in-game, which 95% likely don’t. The battle net app can’t detect external programs used while the player is not connected to the game. It would be considered as a spyware if it was.

Please, stop these copium-fueled wishful thinking posts from flooding the forums.

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How are you going to detect it? Major invasion of privacy to do so.

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Well, I mean they are using remote desktop to exploit the AFK system. However, there’s no way for Blizz to detect or do anything about it.

the solution to detect such a program is very simple.

a licensed blizzard™ em :b:loyee will head out to each household which has a wow classic account active and a camera will be installed into their home pointed at their desktops, simultaneously a chip will be surgically inserted into the licensed owner of said account.

if said camera detects any movement of software within the computer without the chipped player being nearby a personalized wojak meme is made of the player and their account is instantly permanently banned, this solution not only prevents remote access but also prevents the player from having their family or friends log in for them and discourages pet ownership as well

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Unless these remote desktop tools are using HID drivers to emulate their input, that could be quite trivial to detect. They could use the Win32 API GetKeyboardState to check the state of the physically attached keyboard at home while a supposed key is being pressed remotely. Or they could set a low level mouse hook that checks for suspicious mouse events with the LLMHF_INJECTED flag set.

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I can see using remote desktop to stay online maybe being against tos but not using it to get in line

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what if i use the longest flight paths to avoid afk? do i get ban as well lmao

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I think you fundamentally misunderstand the difference between a script and a remote login.

its 1-1 action by remote login. therefore its not bannable under TOS
its not automation, scripting to stay logged in is automation.

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This whole problem is basically irrelevant if they didn’t have 3 hour ques in 2022.

Let me just take a free x-fer, to be trapped on a dead server in 3 months… then pay them to move back.

There’s tons of options they have to fix this, the bull-excrement one they are pushing is not the way.

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Not really, it’s a remote mouse for your desktop. A bot would be a program you don’t have to manage.

Actually …

The wow executable does cache info on each of your devices and it would be more crazy if it COULDNT tell them apart. Diff number of cores, diff Video card, diff drive space … etc.

In terms of remote desktop, Bliz already creates a list of all programs running in the background and compares it to a know list known botting and hacking programs. Adding remote desktop applications to this list would be kinda trivial … I know of several pieces of software that do forbid remote desktop in their EULA to prevent license sharing of expensive pieces of software … so not only is it doable it is already being done elsewhere.

They main thing is … its not against ToS … and honestly why would it be? Anyone w/ a phone, a few brain cells, and the time/willingness to do so can get remote desktop working these days. Its not like you need to know how to make your own VPN and setup port forwarding anymore.

If you dont have it already, and are complaining that others do … your just Lazy tbh.

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Thank you,

This is not hard to detect and I am not even caring about people playing the game with it. Just those who avoid afk ques with it.

Similar to situation to the AV bans tbh

Because Warden after the lawsuit can only read programs that hook into WoW or the bnet launcher, it can’t see anything else on your system, a lawsuit some years ago took care of that. Remote Desktop software doesn’t hook into WoW

Riots vanguard is doing this right now idk what you are talking about warden hasent been used in years

i remember having to change bios options on my computer to play valor

actually a few weeks ago battle eye on escape from tarkov made me close an irrelevant software editing program I was running for class

Most remote desktop software use virtual HID drivers, check after you install say team viewer or bomgar onto a device, its a HID Keyboard and Mouse driver, the reason for this is the windows security layer prevents virtual keyboards and mice from interacting with certain types of prompts mainly UAC prompts requiring you either disabled that feature of windows security or use real hardware, so remote desktop programs use an actual HID driver. Maybe some really terrible no name ones don’t use a HID, but the reputable ones all emulate a HID device.

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doesn’t matter Blizzard because of the lawsuit can only monitor programs directly interacting with thier programs. This means a macro script yes, because it interacts with the program, but a HID driver is impossible to tell because Blizzard’s program isn’t running at the right layer to check such information as device signatures ect, it can only detect basic information, not driver signatures, it would have to run as an admin to do so, or disable UAC prompts, both of which they are expressly forbidden to do. It’s why you can have cheat engine installed on your computer for messing with other games, like I do with Ultimate Admiral Dreadnaughts because its singleplayer but if you have it so much as open the WoW or bnet application you get almost insta perma banned. IT’s because of restrictions because of that lawsuit, because old Blizzard had access to everything, including your browser history

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You sound super knowledgeable do you think with enough data points they would be able to deduce someone is using remote desktop without officially confirming it

if they wanted to enforce no AFK holding yes, that doesn’t require much, except an automated system that requires players to do something more complex than jump, it could literly instead of run 1 foot or jump to unafk require a user to play for 2-3 minutes, people at work might to have this time, I know I wouldn’t when busy, but I also don’t use Remote desktop tools to stay logged in, my server doesn’t have queues. But yes if they increased the range of activity required to un-afk flag they would catch a lot more, but until they add it to the TOS that you can’t stand around AFK and simply jump or move slightly to hold your place then its not agasint the rules, and for blizzard to detect remote desktop tools would open another can of worms entirely.

To give an example, I do IT support, I’ve remoted into peoples computer to help them plenty, a few times its my wow friends that need help, either they need help with an addon, because they can’t figure out what they did to it, or they are having preformance problems. Under a system where remote desktop is banned you also break helping anyone with issues outside of paid home support.