Whats the diffence between sitting in a 30 minite queue and being declined for 30s begore you join a group.
List ur own key run ur own key. Profit
No. Just stop making these posts. Mythic plus requires a good composition and part of that is building the group. Not just rolling three rogues for one week because of a bug.
I can only imagine the horrible outcome of a some possible groups. Stop trying to force queuing in to something that does not need it.
Queues are for base line. Normal dungeons. Lfr.
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I remember when LFR would get to max stacks of determination back in Nazgrim, and the mechanic they were failing was to literally stop hitting the boss.
Would be entertaining to see this crowd in M+ queue (while they wait for 2 hours for a group to actually load.)
Youâve got 10-15 people in Discord that are quitting the game instead ofâŚjust forming a group together?
I have to say that the memes this season has created have mostly made up for it being a terrible season.
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But solo queue already existsâŚ
You are trying to treat the symptoms instead of the underlying issue.
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There are no tanks no heals, because dps role is ridiculously easier than any of them. The tank nerfs were overall a mistake and made main tanks even more a rarity (and consequently healing also became harder so became less popular).
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The current m+ is objectively more difficult than for example it was in shadowlands (like an m15 necrotic wake was a cakewalk compared to the current m10 necrotic wake).
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Season 1âs class tuning was and is really borked with no actual excuse at all for this level of negligence and incompetence. And in a season where ppl already vet ppl harder than ever before due to the diff change⌠what could go wrong?
If these were treated instead, group finding would become way easier.
The system you suggest would solve nothing of this and would only create nightmare parties if any at all (why should any competent heal or tank or any meta dps with high enough metrics use it? actually anyone who is not marginalized for some reason? ) .
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It doesnât. It makes it worse because the success rate will tank and people will come right back here begging for nerfs.
e.g. Queued Heroic Dungeon buffs & LFR buffs with mechanics disabled.
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After running BG Blitz on my healer I donât think I can go back to group finder M+. If they can make solo Q work in PVP they can make it work in PVE. Being able to Q up and avoid the group finder boss makes the game so much more enjoyable.
Replace cleared with timed or no deal.
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Or you could just like⌠yanno. Join a group or start one yourself?
Way simpler
It wont.
Its been beat to death by people who cant understand why it wont work.
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So you had 3 groups worth of people and couldnât think of a solution to your problem? I somehow doubt its the group finder thats the issue here.
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None of them could tank or heal, probably, even to a remote degree. Iâm no glowing player, but I can tank 10-11s as VDH. The problem, as stated many many times over is the vast difference between playing dps vs tank / healer roles.
Itâs a completely different game.
Make tanking and healing easier / more fun and players will return to those roles.
This game is not some esport League of Legends (despite the race to world first - which is fun to watch - but not the norm).
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Iâm always perplexed when people think theyâre clever by suggesting M+ queue as if somehow it will sidestep this problem.
It would be even harder to find a tank and healer to use such a system. Their job would more difficult and less fun than it already is in a premade group.
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I saw some good responses and some valid criticism as to why it wonât work.
Great. Maybe I am too optimistic that there could be a Solo Q system to increase participation in M+s.
While nothing changes ⌠10-20 people that I discord daily who broke 2500 on 2 week quit the game and since have not logged on to push any M+s ⌠why would they bother when any +13/14 instantly disbands on the first wipe or a wrong BL timing.
Weâll be back and play the game for a whopping 2 whole weeks during Season 2 and then quit again ⌠guess people are okay with WoW being a trash wood tier MMO that offers no continuity.
Main tank here, the roles are fine. They dont need to be âeasierâ âŚpeople like you just need to actually get off your high horse and tank or heal for your â10-15 friendsâ who dont seem to want to do it
Weâre fine. We are just over the bad dps who run their mouths, constantly butt-pull and care more about their parse than they do succesfully completing the encounter.
With 20 years of this game, youâd think ALL of you would have a viable alt that you can switch to each time an expac drops. Itâs even easier now than it was in the past.
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Not one person here is discussing roles besides you. The op didnt discuss not being able to find a heal or tank at all. They said they couldnt get into groups. They had 15 people available to them.
They are their problem.
Roles are fine. Fun is subjective. An imagined shortage is not why the 99:100 dps that apply for my keys dont get in.
Blizzard will someday crack and add a queue for m0
Did we go over how we are going to force tanks and healers to participate?
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Iâve found the tank changes to be great! Hitting your buttons as a tank feel more meaningful now.
I dislike them, because now tanks are nearly fully at the hands of the healers with little to no control over their own hp in any content they dont overgear.
It overall does not feel good at all to play a tank right now in m+, but rather a mandatory chore that you do in order to progress.
Funny, but I could actually compare m+ tanking to having to farm torghast in SL for the soul ash currency alone. I much prefer when I get to play dps, its just much more satisfying.
But actually it does not even matter what I personally think. This role was already scarce proportionally to the dps population and upping the difficulty most certainly was not something it needed.
It is very clearly noticeable how much less tanks queue now than before tww.
The high queue times are in a very large part thx to this.