go play classic if you want this.
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World Quests, Dungeons, Dailies (that still exist), Weeklies, open world events, uhhh⊠There are a lot of things that can be done for EXP if you are somehow done doing everything.
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weeklies-can only be done ONCE A WEEK.
open world events-arent always up.
dungeons-reward minimal experience. almost as much as a couple quests.
world quests-arenât those only once every couple hours?
dailies-I mean i guess. but those are once every 24 hours.
your also ignoring the fact that no other mmo does this sort of thing for a reasonâŠitâs way too time and resource intensive.
When in this or really any mmo did leveling matter besides a road to the game at the end?
With the exception of maybe EverQuest I donât recall a time where I can legit say I wasnât pushing the most efficient way to the end.
Leveling is - in my opinion and from my experience - a way to set the stage lore wise, introduce you to new mechanics or changes with the expansion.
Iâm not eying to discount your opinion I just donât see anytime where it mattered.
This seems to be like the whole maga thing where you ask when it was great and you can count 100 people with 100 ideas and none of those ideas add up or make sense to anyone that doesnât have a rose tinted spectacle to wear.
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Thatâll happen when different people have different opinions!
Some kind of adjustability would probably be ideal.
I doubt even those with 24/7 free time could do Legion + BfA + Shadowlands + Dragonflight world quests. And this isnât even counting the fact dynamic events happen in Shadowlands and even more in Dragonflight on a daily basis.
Even if you had a 1% EXP modifier on, youâd struggle to do all of that in a week let alone a day lol.
They could remove it entirely and the majority of the playerbase would rejoice.
We can only dream
Thereâs a very good reason. The majority of the playerbase wants to do endgame content, not rp walk around doing quests.
I found the problem. This is a competitive pve, instanced based game now. I sincerely think you would be much happier in one of the 27 versions of classic
Itâs an MMO. Not an RPG, there are RPG stuff into it. But thatâs hardly their main goal. With the amount of bloat and all the other cutoff stuff, they donât want to put resources into it cause most of the pop just wants to hit max lvl where FOMO happens for said xpac.
I donât disagree with you about lvling and exploring being more interesting, but the amount of content is so vast, if people donât hold xp and just do random stuff you will hit max lvl at one point with the syncing system.
Most people already consumed the previous xpacs, for new players you can hit max lvl then go back and solo it all. If you want groups for it the only option is to sync, find people wanting to RP or learn the ropes on classic.
The biggest issue here is how long the game have been up and how âtediousâ most classes are witouth a full talent tree, but this isnât a now problem, this have been like this ever since the game was out with 60 lvls and from 1-10 or 10-30 is just a tediou 2 spell boring grind.
Thereâs so much repetable content with the same lvl of difficulty at one certain point people will even care about doing at this point in the game life.
So, just to touch on this⊠PvP has been and will continue to be somewhat secondary/niche content. On top of that, twinking/low level PvP is kind of a niche of PvP. So itâs a niche of a niche.
Leveling takes no time at all, buying a boost is a waste of money lol
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Thatâs a nonsense argument. You can hate pvp and I agree with itâs dead in this game but because blizzard treats it as a check mark feature on the game rather than real content.
But the reason being is unfair unless you no life pvp? What does that mean? People no life mythic raiding then dump on those new to raiding especially in LFRs , kicking them for the simplest of mess ups or âyour dps is lowâ ITS LFR! Get over yourselves. But if some enjoys pvp and they play that all the time thus they gain skill â itâs bad then? No mythic raiders get a pass but not skilled pipers? lol what kind of logic is that?
They made leveling quicker because everybody wanted it to be quicker.
I think the mobs need to be tuned so they actually kill you but per mob kill Xp should be raised so the increased difficulty doesnât result in slower leveling,
Iâm opposed to brain dead leveling with zero attention being required but I also donât want the leveling to be slow:
Can I go into a RBG and do the same damage as everyone else as a fresh 70?
The answer is no. PvP should be fair, as in my spell has the same CD and damage output as yours, like my Auto rifle has the same damage as yours in Halo: CE.
In MMO PvP however, it all comes down to who has the better gear, IE who has the most time to waste in the mode for the currency.
Gearing for pvp has never been easier, like i see what you are trying to argue, but gear wise it hasnt been better than now.
Class balance in pvp can be a mess though
I am so sick and tired of hearing that.
âOh yea its easy bruh, just go and get frustrated at being a burden on your team, not being able to do anything at all for a whole weekend. Easy bruhâ.
It AINT easy for players like me.
It feels as though those who enjoy the journey have largely been forgotten in favor of those who want endgame. Everything before the latest expansion is essentially going through the motions. Instead of inventing a way for those looking for a more rewarding experience along the way, they neuter and streamline it to get it over as quickly as possible.
The canned answer to these problems is to either purposefully gimp yourself or go play Classic. Both of which ignore the fact that this isnât a player problem, but a design one. If modern gaming is to be seen as a service, then the service in this particular area is lacking. And given that the flaws are so deeply ingrained in the overall design, I have no idea of what could be done to solve it. But I donât think limited-time power borrowing and speed boosting are the answers. It needs to be something long term, while also being optional for those just wanting to do max level content.
Green gear from the AH is like 20 ilvl lower than the best gear out there, its REALLY not hard to get geared.
Can that green gear do anything against someone who has purple gear? No? Then MY POINT STANDS.
PvP in MMOs is unfair, and those that defend this status quo are Killers, its not enough that you win, you want to see me lose.
They tried what youâre asking, it didnât work, people didnât play
This is the best way to make it more fair AND give progression, which is what mmoâs are about.