Make fresh classic servers have Pre-Nerfed Bosses like TBC

Pre-Nerfed C’Thun and Ouro are just one of them.

Players today would clear them easily

Make raids fight with on release spells instead of 1.12 spells. Then give 1.12 by the end. Doing that means your fan Base would see how much you care for their needs.

5 months blizzard for ragnaros. Something is wrong. Yes players have gotten much better but ragnaros wasnt fought with 1.12 talents on release


Ideas:

Maybe add an extra option where there are no no world buffs in this option where we can fight pre nerfed bosses.

While keeping the alternate original option to fight post nerfed bosses with world buffs (which is the current system we have on our current classic server with world buffs and the chronoboon)

Therefore you can see 1.12 vs the patch that the raid came with.
As such Ragnaros and MC was far harder when it first came out in the first patch releasing MC. I think Blizzard should make each raid, use thesame spell coefficients or changes in molten core.

If they cant do that forever, then perhaps, start with the early talents just like back then so the players arent so overpowered in the early content, dont start with the 1.12 talents etc.
Then by the end of naxx you can choose to make it 1.12 for all raids like the first classic servers you did. Or you can have two modes. One mode is no world buffs or consumables or potions (just player buffs) and each raid is set to be a pre nerfed version using the original talent system or spells when the raid was released and this changes when you enter the raid AND the other mode which is the normal mode, of what we currently have, world buffs and a 1.12 system for all raids.

At least 1 mode is hard pre nerfed boss mode, and the other is normal mode 1.12 end game talent mode with world buffs using the chronoboon, potions and consumables

Why? because tbc was too easy and blizzard had to change it by making the bosses be in the pre nerfed state. So why not thesame for classic? A no world buff mode. just self buffs, but more importantly, pre nerfed bosses and what also made them harder was the different talent system for when they were released.

The two modes will be 1.12 mode and on release pre nerfed patch mode (can choose to add no world buffs or not)

Should this mean MC should have 8 debuffs? Who knows.
Maybe not. But we should have the talent or spells changed (1.9.0 talents for aq40) so that the bosses are much harder. We have killed ragnaros in thesame gear 2 x faster than how it was originally. I have recorded and timed the videos.

We can take pre nerfed cthun

Even asmongold agrees

Keep watching all the way past 14 minutes and to the end

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I doubt something like pre-nerf C’Thun would be doable without World Buffs. Something tells me those may not have been factored in when that guy claimed it was impossible

It would be great if players can test this on test realms in my opinion. So far heigan and gothik arent able to get to their dance or other phases because of these world buffs. I have recordings.

Blizzard should maybe make an extra world buff mode with non pre nerfed bosses

And then make world buffed modes (what we currently have) use pre nerfed bosses like tbc

Or the other way around like mentioned in my first post

No world buffed mode with pre nerfed bosses
And keep what we currently have unchanged
(The chronoboon mode of world buffs with nerfed bosses)

Why am I doing this? I just want to help blizzard

I think its stupid if Blizzard spent all that time making a heigan dance or Ragnaros submerge that never emerges.

Look what asmongold says at 8 minutes and 20 seconds and all the way past 14 minutes