That’s infact wrong.
Feral druid is a dps class as well, all you need is to swap talents and glyphs.
You’re saying its not a pve class until WoD, yet Pandaria separates guardian and feral.
Wrath also showed feral is a damage class.
Cataclysm is clearly one of the worst states for feral damage.
Feral is fine.
You’re about to be A tier and you’re asking for buffs.
You just don’t know what you’re talking about.
Get t12 gear then see where you’re at, kinda dumb to ask for a buff before you even have the new phase gear.
Feral sims are painting a much different picture than what you guys are saying.
Check warcraft logs for t12, were right below all other classes except for arcane, mm, frost and fury at the beginning of the phase.
Were one of the few classes that wont have a main 397 weapon.
You could argue mages with legendary will optimally scale better, fury will scale immensely with proper mastery set and weapons.
So check WCL for t12 in which you have no actual gear yet, what a stupid suggestion lmfao.
The Sims literally have all the gear on them, and your sim dps is just below 40k…
You have 0 clue what you’re saying.
Sims are a tool not a Guarantee!!! They are also based on Patchwerk style fights.
You’re melee you can do your full rotation while moving unlike casters.
Do you even play this game?
Sims were accurate because the PTR had all the gear, you’re crying for nothing.
Do you understand all classes and their rotations?. You can’t assume all melees have the same style of gameplay, some perform real well moving for single target only, some other scale real well for two target fights with movement, vs others that passively scale imminently with aoe and or having to switch targets.
You complain about movement, but you are a shaman?. the only class that can move while casting .
Some casters have other benefits that melee dont have (multi dotting, precast), and melee have benefits that ranges don’t have in certain fights. You agree?
I didn’t complain about movement at all, I was responding to someone who said the sims were patchwork style fight, which is true but melee can do their rotations while moving.
You aren’t going to get a buff, blizzard isn’t going to buff you, you’re about to be A tier.
And your evidence is “we are bad in t12 look at logs…” It’s been a few days you have no real gear yet.
Do you think blizzard is going to do anything until they see feral perform for a few weeks while getting the new gear, especially since blizzard balances based off WCL.
You guys have been crying forever now and there like 10 threads about feral, you are about to be A tier and you’re still not happy.
Feral was buffed during phase 2 in wrath mid ulduar, it’s not impossible. History can repeat itself.
See how you said MID ULDUAR???
Are we MID T12?
Blizzard uses WCL to balance, they aren’t going to balance you 5 days into a new phase, you have NO NEW GEAR YET.
It’s like I’m speaking a different language and you aren’t comprehending anything I’m saying all while proving my point.
You are assuming they become an A tier, were assuming the class will perform bad vs most classes for other reasons.
Blizzard will obviously use WCL in the future to look at it, that we are both agreeing on.
You mention gear differences when feral druid will be one of the few classes without a 397 weapon, has a bug that hasn’t been fixed since cataclysm launch. Obviously most classes will scale better with BIS gear, were saying by the time feral is bis , and other classes are bis, feral will still be a joke bottom performer
The sims are based off your bis list, saying you don’t have a 397 weapon is a non argument the sim has your best weapon whatever ilvl it is and you’re doing around 40k DPS on a 5m fight.
Which is pretty solid, you can sim every melee and you’re right with them.
It’s pretty easy to see how good feral is going to be this tier, you 3 seem to be the only people not understanding this.
That’s assuming RL allows feral druid to stay on one target all fight for all of raid (Like Wrath) , most other melees can swap targets and without a punishing rotation.
You keep bringing up odd scenarios to try and make a point that is irrelevant.
Anyone being pulled from DPS is going to have bad DPS, thanks for clearing that up.
You clearly don’t understand the difference of feral with most classes , have you ever played feral and other melee classes ?
During wrath this was the one of the few class allowed to stay for saurfang, lich king , pp etc for a reason.
You are misinterpreting the way the rotation works vs most other melees.
No I’m not, your rotation is irrelevant, your damage is your damage.
Your bis weapon is your bis weapon.
Your raid assignment is your raid assignment.
Your damage is going to be great.
I’d say it’s more that it comes across as a feral reroll that is a side effect of Blizzard’s poor decision to give feral a silly, gimmicky, dumbed down playstyle for PvE content in Wrath.
They shouldn’t have done that. And now some people want that sort of “feels like a silly bug that should never exist on official servers” playstyle that was free OoC “procs” from faerie fire.
And this is the consequence of that decision.
Anyway… that’s how it comes across to me at least.
Bearweaving is not intended during wrath.
Youre saying its better to wait for energy and count to 3 seconds to press an ability vs pressing fff to give you a free cast only once every 6 seconds is a big deal? , the class did not make sense at the time.
I think even blizzard knew after it was done that the feral buffs in wotlk was a mistake.
The mistake they did was changing the class 4 times within two weeks because they did no testing