Just found Steve talking about the Night Warrior and he only talks about there being Elune worship elsewhere in the cosmos, nothing about Tyrande being the first. Nothing else I’ve found suggests it either. So until we know otherwise, there have been previous Kal’dorei Night Warriors in accordance with their legends. Which means just her blessing can destroy Empires.
An’she being an actual Sun God doesn’t hurt anything, especially if Elune’s mystique is going to be dispelled anyways when the First One’s are centerstage. In fact, he’d enhance her by giving her more depth because he’d somehow be MORE hands-off than she is.
So what about the Wild Gods? Yes, technically, they already belong to the Nelves, but they are “neutral”. How about this - you get An 'She later (someday), and right now you will be killed by the Wild Gods playing for the NE team?
No, I propose this as an “equal” exchange. Should the NElves take advantage of the Wild Gods? Or An’she first, so that the Horde then complains that its gods are being ignored or humiliated?
And no one says that you have to , however, it is then also very easy for you to just pass off themes - which do not concern you at all - especially because you are not interested in them at all.
This is nonsense. Exchange? Exchange for what, the Wild Gods - even if they had them - would have been ignored as well. The Wild Gods of Zandalar were only allowed to intervene when the plot allowed it, at the end, to explain how the Horde could drive out the Alliance in the first place, Bwonsamdi alone didn’t help much. Bwonsamdi alone was not powerfull enough to drive an army out.
Although his ability to create undead would have been one of the most helpful.
I apologize - despite all differences - to the TE to fill his thread with this discussion right now.
I don’t agree with you there either. I understand your anger, I understand your desire for revenge, but that’s just as much this “Divine Power Faction” story that’s been going on here as well. It’s all about fulfilling a power fantasy ala “we have the greater God/Better god/What ever”.
It’s not about the story anymore! It’s all about power fantasy.
We have literally been discussing this for years. I have literally brought this up for years. Others have brought this up for years.
It would be objectively cool. Again, look at the images in OP, it’s cool, no denying it.
Citation needed, because we literally have in-game BFA confirmation the ritual was used during the expansion of the Night Elf Empire against the Troll Empires
“When other people have something like what I have, it makes it less special”
If they only want that because you have it, then that’s toxic? yes, although what you have you’ve had since the beginning?
I would not call that toxic. It’s envy, it’s the exact same envy that kids get when another kid is playing with something they can’t have right now, that’s not toxic, that’s envy.
Honestly, it’s a tiring topic, especially with you, since you keep starting the racism debate sooner or later when one disagrees with you, although disagreeing with you has nothing to do with your SKIN or your homeland, BUT:
The Nes are not Europeans either, you know.
Yeah, yeah, i know, i know, i try to find it, i´m not sure where, but i´m sure i read it somehow.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/In_Darkest_Night
There is quest information, section six. But “Characters can be wrong.” I’ll go look for more.
By the way, Selena from Bastion’s tavern doesn’t exist now, does she?
Again, some of their myths are wrong but the existence of Elune is 100% correct. Their belief that Elune favors them on Azeroth is 100% correct. Their belief that Elune empowers their priestesses, especially Tyrande, is 100% correct. Also the myth of Elune taking specific chosen champions to the stars was proven right. We saw her do it with Ysera, she just doesn’t do it with the entire race.
The tauren are wrong about everything. The identity of the Earthmother, if she even exists because Azeroth being her isn’t confirmed. The idea that the Earthmother made the tauren. The name of Elune, who is supposed to be the Earthmother’s eye and not an independent deity. And so far they are wrong about An’she even existing, which means he’s the only deity in the game that is an outright lie. Along with the Skyfather.
It paints the tauren as uniquely ignorant to the cosmology of the universe. The only thing they maybe got right was that they saw Elune boinking a stag once.
Could be, but so far the only being Azeroth has chosen to empower is a dwarf. She has shown no interest in the tauren living on her, which itself is a problem with the “Earthmother = Azeroth” theory.
Every major culture in human history has believed that its people were “The Chosen Ones” by their respective deity or deities. In World of Warcraft, we see that literally manifesting with deities, magic, etc.
That being said, I feel like the best/most plausible/realistic explanation for this is that Elune certainly favors the Kaldorei (something we’ve seen countless times), she gives them power (also seen), but even Elune is not completely omnipotent. This is something we also saw in the wake of War of the Thorns, and is one of the greatest sources of outrage on Tyrande’s part—why did Elune “allow” it to happen?
Which is honestly a pretty understandable reaction; many religious peoples throughout human history have questioned why their particular deity “allowed” them to suffer in the wake of some great tragedy or other. WoW’s polytheistic setting just means we have multiple, often opposing deities occupying the same space (Loa and Ancients both being Wild Gods but loyal to opposing factions, for example).
If my source is correct, because Elune is playing a huge 5000d Cheese game here and it had to happen to stop the Jailer, stop the shadowland schemes and save the universe.
For Tyrande to save the Ardenwaeld + the schadowlands, since the Jailer stuff and his outbreak would have happened either way, with or without Teldrassil, (The souls just gave more push, but the Arbiter would have turned off either way and for the heroes of Azeroth and the Night Warrior to go there at all, there needs to be a motivation and a reason, Elune allowed it to happen).
