You mean like how Elune is solely a night elven deity?
See, this I would agree with, if Blizzard were willing to go more into the whole “Earth Mother is (probably) Azeroth’s World Soul, and the Tauren believe the Sun/Moon are her ‘eyes’” narrative.
But again, Blizz loves their faction conflicts, so…
Only in theory; Nightborne, if anything, have been presented as being fairly secular, with blood elves, again, holding the sun in reverence, primarily because the night elves revere the moon.
Not necessarily; there’s a difference between “The Holy Light” (Naaru, etc.) and the actual sun as a celestial body (Rukhmar, An’she, Belore).
I mean, I could see this happening, with the “Earth Mother” being revealed to be Azeroth’s Titan World Soul—there are an infinite number of RL parallels to separate cultures having their own unique interpretations on the same phenomena (both right and wrong).
If you read the post, I posited making him the “Blacksmith”/Forger of the First Ones; thus Norgannon and Khazgoroth would’ve been “his”, and so all humans, dwarves, and gnomes find their origin in An’she.
Same as how Eonar and Winter Queen are being speculated to have been created by Elune.
Different members of each Pantheon of each Force were created by different First Ones alone or in collaboration with eachother.
Naaru, which are beings of Light who were “forged in the crucible of creation” but whose “Prime Naaru” can be restored via an Elune-powered Titan-artifact, could’ve been a joint effort between Elune and An’she.
I personally do not think WoW’s cosmology will end up being monotheist like Tolkien’s was intended to be due to his wanting to create a Catholic-based fantasy world.
I believe, and hope, the First Ones will be a Creator Pantheon; WoW will be truly Polytheistic.
I also mentioned in the first post that I think that’s why Azeroth is so special. Same way that Aman’thul’s power flew into Odyn and Ra (Titan soul fragment going into Titan-made Construct), some “Life First One” is actually being reborn within Azeroth (First One soul fragment going into First-One-made Titan World Soul). Ergo “Earthmother”.
Elune isn’t a “solely Night Elven Deity.”
Night Elves are just only race with a solely Elune based religion.
Lot of references to traces of Elune Worship within the Nightborne, though I can imagine that their isolation left them separated from Elune.
Night Elves, I can see as rejecting Elune out of spite but I can also see some of them still holding some reverence for her (Like the Lun’alai in Zandalar.)
But it’s sort of like how Belore (lets go with that) replaced Elune as their focus and Elune became relegated to a secondary deity.
Yes and no. Rukhmar/An’she/Belore would be an embodiment/manifestation of the Light. And Elune could be likewise, but for a “shifted” sort of light. (A “reflection” of the light, like how the Moon reflects the Sun’s light.)
Which is why I still think Elune and An’she might be the same entity but Elune is a “safer” form of it, one that can actually touch Azeroth without burning it.
Well yes. Basically I was just getting at there’s as much Elune worship in the Horde races enough to justify her being considered as more then just a “Night Elf Deity.”
Nah, the fact her “correct” name is Elune when Tauren call her Musha and the name Lun’alai presumably means “Lun’al’s Ones” given -ai means “Ones”, the association and proximity to Elune isn’t equal.
Nelves got the “real name”, got the “night warrior magic ritual” and get divine intervention every now and again. The Lun’alai didn’t even feature in the Zandalari storyline, and the Tauren don’t have any Elune ex Machina stories for them.
But hey, An’she would be the ultimate creator of half of the Alliance, so it’s all good.
So its…Elune exists in other races myths, but because inconvenient to the myth that she’s a NE only god, we will ignore it. Guess that is par for the course of the story forums
I told you a few days ago, this is all about a faction ego power fantasy. Of course, this is ego-Driven and of course its ignore every other source…its about to make something of the Horde big. no matter how its affect races or change things.
MU’ SHA is another LANGUAGE! And unlike the night elves, the Tauren never communicated with her, but that doesn’t change the fact that Elune already gave the Tauren her powers, they just don’t have an exclusive Elune myth, but integrated her into their general pantheon.
So you’re saying the planet of Fyzandi speaks Darnassian?
Nah not inconvenient, but it’s supercessionist. Two peoples on two separate planets use “Elune”; I’ll not hold my breath for a Night Warrior in 9.1 using the term “Musha” or “Lun’al”.
I believe - if you want to hear my opinion - that the Eternal Ones, the Titans, all these pantheons of gods speak a language of their own, because after all the word Elune comes from the word of the Titan language, which Elune taught to the night elves.
Dark trolls, later night elves, but yes. Before elune taught them the language, they didn’t know elune as a word, and I’m sure the meaning of the word elune, which is Mother Moon, has the same meaning for Luanaria and Mu’Sha: Mother Moon.
To add to this, the religion or beliefs the Nightborne practice weren’t mentioned at all during the Suramar questline, despite Suramar being the heart of Elune worship with the largest Temple of Elune prior to the War of the Ancients.
First Arcanist Thalyssra says: It would seem “Elune’s wisdom” guided her away from the bond we once shared. So be it.
This is the only time a Nightborne has mentioned Elune, and I’ve seen people attribute this quote to claim that the Nightborne no longer revere Elune. I think the Night Elf players would lose their minds if they had to share Elune with the Nightborne.
Or you know, being a actual god, it’s probably more along the lines of that she is capable of speaking in a language and other civilizations understand her regardless.
So two languages on two separate planets, both with the Night Warrior power, somehow obtained the name “Elune”, while Tauren and Trolls, who do not have the Night Warrior ritual in their repetoire and mythos nor any historical instances of Elune ex Machina, did not, by sheer magical coincidence?
If that was the case, wouldn’t those other civilizations assume that the voice they heard was saying whatever was “moon” in their language? Which would click with Mu’sha and Lunal, but it still gets weird when intergalactic ghosts continue to use the nelven word for it.
I know the meta reason is because the player’s accustomed to hearing the word Elune and there likely wasn’t any reason to think it through since everyone has to speak English anyway, but still.