Honestly, I don’t get why people are so passionate about WOW lore. I wish I was into it, but I seriously can’t be; I’d rather watch a Disney movie and cry whenever I go to Disney World than pay attention to WOW’s lore. I just want a mature story and feel like the story was written with passion, if it was like that then I’d pay attention.
I’m in favor of as many new race-class options as are plausible within the lore.
Something counter-trope, like a tauren warlock? That’s fine. Something really weird like a gnome shaman? Works for me. Protagonists can break trope, they’re already special.
But something like a mag’har warlock should be laughed out of the park by anybody rational whom cares about what little lore in this game is unbroken
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Doesn’t make it worse.
But you have to understand that somebody else’s immersion means nothing to me.
I don’t say that to be mean. I just say that to be factual
i think one of the issues with the all race/all class idea is that it really does mess with different cultures these races are representing…mag’har orcs aren’t just the regular green orcs…they have different values, history, etc.
the differences between these races shouldn’t just be their skin color (in this case). They are two completely different species of orc. now what? now you’re just selecting the racial ability at the start screen now since nothing else matters imo.
that’s a better direction to creating a fantasy world…i dunno who at blizz thinks this is an improvement to “story”.
all for more races/more classes, but it’s hard to get excited for a giant homogenization of things. 
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I can’t wait until I can play a Warlock potato. 
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He’s got the look. It honestly looks cool. He’s been in the game since Legion.
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If it makes you happy and blizzard puts it in.
Both of those have to be true. Otherwise you so silly
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I think one thing to consider, is that there are a lot of stupid factors involved with how the orcs turned green.
It wasn’t just the presence of warlocks using fel magic. Remember by the time the orcs had sacked Shatterath, the entire planet of Draenor was basically rotting away due to the rampant use of fel magic. Everything was saturated with the stuff, which would cause something like orcs to turn green even passively.
I’d assume player Warlocks aren’t chugging demon juice and the like to cause themselves to mutate from using the magic they are supposed to be in control of, and Azeroth is certainly not a fel induced wasteland. So I wouldn’t think mag’har orcs have any worry about turning green unless they decide to drink their succubus dry.
Ha.
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He’s a dragonmaw orc, they aren’t mag’har
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Correct, and that’s why I never complained that mag’har orcs exist as a concept. A mag’har can go fight demons and not turn green. Plenty were fine in Tanaan Jungle during WoD.
However, wielding the fel does turn you green. It’s not just drinking the juice. Just being around it is good enough (Durotan and Draka). And using the fel as your class’ spellcasting, that’s definitely as much if not more exposure than either of those characters.
I go back to my original post.
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The whole point of wanting maghar orcs was the skin colors honestly. As a way to enhance orcs customization. Them being an allied race themed around being Maghar instead of just alternate orcs was sort of a bad move in some ways.
Because the name means uncorrupted… but like they always called themselves maghar? From a logical standpoint it would make sense if it meant something else. The name sort of exists to be contrarian against the orcs that were corrupted by fel… but likterally the alternate draenor orcs didn’t necessarily fight them in the same way initially.
When I said “chugging demon juice and the like” referred to drowning oneself in fel magic. Not just using it. I already noted that by the time Draka and Durotan started turning green, Draenor itself has been saturated with so much fel that everything was contributing to the corruption. If it was just a couple of warlocks being close by, then the mag’har orcs should have started turning green as soon as they reached Azeroth because there are a lot of demons and warlocks running around.
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Yeah I’m sorry, I didn’t read your post properly.
But my point is that if you’re wielding the fel, you’re covering yourself in those energies. Daily. Weekly. Monthly. Yearly. It’s your go-to. It turned Gul’dan and his warlocks green.
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This is kind of a silly thread. Mag’har means “uncorrupted.” But Mag’har Orcs are not just any old group of uncorrupted Orcs. The are specifically the united, uncorrupted remnants of the Iron Horde and Frostwolf Clan. So regardless of whether an individual Mag’har later embraces fel magic, it doesn’t change their origin.
Which was my second point; not allowing themselves to be corrupted by the magic they wield.
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These would have been perfect maghar customizations to have honestly and would be cool when maghar get demonhunters tbh.
But it does change their ability to realistically have brown skin.
If they were just treating Mag’har as a cultural signifier instead of letting it overlap with biology, I wouldn’t care.
Like if they force mag’har orc warlocks to use green skin I won’t complain. Because I understand that cultural distinction rather than the lore one they are currently enforcing.
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I just do not agree that it is doable. It’s not what the game or lore has shown.
You use the fel, it twists you. If you’re an orc, you turn green. If you’re a blood elf, your eyes turn green
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I would also like to mention that literally all other races don’t turn green when exposed to fel. The orcs did so with the blood pact blood of mannoroth, strong demonblood.
If literally all other races don’t get effected from being warlocks it wouldn’t mean maghar warlocks would be just like human warlocks or say gnome warlocks who don’t turn green.
Demonhunters also have a literal demon inside and don’t necessarily turn green either. Although they have choices to have demon skin cosmetically. It does not block you from having a normal looking demonhunter.
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Except there isn’t really any hard lore about what quantity of fel over what period of time affects Orc skin change.
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